HF Habs: Training Camp 2020-2021

[FrankMTL]

Byron is still better then Frolik and Perry and I don’t think it’s close

That's my thinking as well...A bit of a waste of talent. If Byron can rebound (stay healthy) and score like he did the previous 2 seasons, than I'd rather have him on the active roster.

 

[ForeverHabs97]

Byron is still better then Frolik and Perry and I don’t think it’s close

Byron is a little underrated on hfboard.
Everyone wants to get rid of him ASAP but he's still somewhat decent.

 

[TouzY]

I see :

Tatar Danault Gally
Drouin Suzuki Anderson
Toffoli KK Perry
Lehkonen Evans Armia

Chiarot Weber
Edmundson Petry
Romanov Kulak
Mete

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Deebs]

Roma with Kulak (especially on the right side) is a little nerve racking. Can always switch it up if it doesn't click I guess.

 

[ForeverHabs97]

Anyone know when TC starts?

 

[habamillions]

Byron is a little underrated on hfboard.
Everyone wants to get rid of him ASAP but he's still somewhat decent.

Agreed. But its the contract most wants to get rid of. Too expenaive for a 3rd/4th line player.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Plenty of players will be in and out of the lineup especially in back to backs and depending on then opponents. Players like Byron, Perry, Frolik, Mete, Kulak, Evans etc. will cycle in and out of the lineup all year. Doubt any of them will have a fixed roster spot.

 

[Deebs]

Anyone know when TC starts?

January 3rd

 

[Sterling Archer]

Here’s some context. Not Byron hate, just math to not have to make any significant trades.

 

[Roadhouse]

Here’s some context. Not Byron hate, just math to not have to make any significant trades.

Alright then, no Byron and a short camp. 16 minutes for each of the top 3 lines, 12 minutes for the 4th lines. The pinnacle of fairness for contract years like Tatar and Danault. Claude goes back to his old top line and also uses the proven line Muller put together for games 4-5-6 against Philly.

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Toffoli - Kotkaniemi - Anderson
Lehkonen - Frolik - Perry

 

[Gravity]

Alright then, no Byron and a short camp. 16 minutes for each of the top 3 lines, 12 minutes for the 4th lines. The pinnacle of fairness for contract years like Tatar and Danault. Claude goes back to his old top line and also uses the proven line Muller put together for games 4-5-6 against Philly.

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Toffoli - Kotkaniemi - Anderson
Lehkonen - Frolik - Perry

Evans has shown he deserves to be on this roster.

 

[Roadhouse]

Evans has shown he deserves to be on this roster.

Claude Julien. That's all I have. Vets.

Evans was great in the playoffs. Like KK, I'm expecting Julien to first favor vets again then progressively increase ice time for young legs.

 

[SakuKoivu11]

14 forwards:
Tatar Danault Gallagher
Drouin Suzuki Anderson
Toffoli Kotkaniemi Armia
Byron Evans Lehkonen
Frolik Perry

7 defencemen:
Chariot Weber
Edmundson Petry
Romanov Kulak
Mete

2 goalies:
Price
Allen

23 man roster

6 men taxi squad:
G-Lindgren
D-Ouellet
D-Juulsen
F-Poehling
F-Weal
F-Vejdemo

 

[Roadhouse]

14 forwards:
Tatar Danault Gallagher
Drouin Suzuki Anderson
Toffoli Kotkaniemi Armia
Byron Evans Lehkonen
Frolik Perry

7 defencemen:
Chariot Weber
Edmundson Petry
Romanov Kulak
Mete

2 goalies:
Price
Allen

23 man roster

6 men taxi squad:
G-Lindgren
D-Ouellet
D-Juulsen
F-Poehling
F-Weal
F-Vejdemo

Over the cap, doesn't work.

 

[26Mats]

14 forwards:
Tatar Danault Gallagher
Drouin Suzuki Anderson
Toffoli Kotkaniemi Armia
Byron Evans Lehkonen
Frolik Perry

7 defencemen:
Chariot Weber
Edmundson Petry
Romanov Kulak
Mete

2 goalies:
Price
Allen

23 man roster

6 men taxi squad:
G-Lindgren
D-Ouellet
D-Juulsen
F-Poehling
F-Weal
F-Vejdemo

Over the cap, doesn't work.

It's over the cap and Juulsen and Poehling need to be playing games, not sitting in the taxi all season. To me it's Laval or in the lineup for those 2.

 

[Hins77]

Byron is a little underrated on hfboard.
Everyone wants to get rid of him ASAP but he's still somewhat decent.

In term of « players », byron is not that bad. However, with a flat cap during 2/3 years. His contract’s could be a problem soon. You don’t want a player on your 4th line paid 3,4 millions

 

[MrNasty]

It's over the cap and Juulsen and Poehling need to be playing games, not sitting in the taxi all season. To me it's Laval or in the lineup for those 2.

When does the AHL even start? Better to have guys on taxi practicing at least.

 

[FrankMTL]

When does the AHL even start? Better to have guys on taxi practicing at least.

Potentially February 5th...but who knows at this point as that was 2 months ago.

2020-21 start date moved back to Feb. 5

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Here’s some context. Not Byron hate, just math to not have to make any significant trades.

I cant see that happening. Byron is a much better player than Frolik and Perry. They arent going to have Byron out of the roster just to keep Perry.

Frolik should clear waivers no problem. Hard to tell if Perry would clear waivers, but they probably will take the chance. Also gotta keep in mind that the chances an american team picks up Perry on waivers are low since that means Perry will need to travel back to the US and quarantine.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I cant see that happening. Byron is a much better player than Frolik and Perry. They arent going to have Byron out of the roster just to keep Perry.

Frolik should clear waivers no problem. Hard to tell if Perry would clear waivers, but they probably will take the chance. Also gotta keep in mind that the chances an american team picks up Perry on waivers are low since that means Perry will need to travel back to the US and quarantine.

It’s not a question of liking Byron as much as getting under the cap. Barring injury or a trade, a larger salary player needs to be on the taxi squad to make space. Byron and Weal are two of the higher paid bottom 6 players who can make that work unless you think Armia or Lehkonen won’t make the regular roster.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

It’s not a question of liking Byron as much as getting under the cap. Barring injury or a trade, a larger salary player needs to be on the taxi squad to make space. Byron and Weal are two of the higher paid bottom 6 players who can make that work unless you think Armia or Lehkonen won’t make the regular roster.

If we waive Weal, Frolik, Perry, and Juulsen, then I'm pretty sure we are under the cap

 

[BLONG7]

Trading Byron just makes sense, get a pick for him and call it a day...

 

[Sterling Archer]

If we waive Weal, Frolik, Perry, and Juulsen, then I'm pretty sure we are under the cap

All those players will be going up and down between roster and taxi. Does it matter who goes first or second? They’ll all cycle through which is the point of the taxi squad.

 

[smirob]

Byron is a little underrated on hfboard.
Everyone wants to get rid of him ASAP but he's still somewhat decent.

The problem with Byron is 100% his cap hit - 3.4M on the fourth line until 2023 is not good cap management. I like him as a player but he's overpaid imho, and I would be happy if we can move him asap.

Our depth on the wings makes it even easier to put him on the block.