Training Camp 2017 [Mod warning post #676]

[SoupaTroupa]

Is that horrible jet thing in the centre line new, or did I just never notice it before?

I think you just never noticed it before.

 

[Gm0ney]

Yes the jet has been part of the center line since 2011-12.

 

[nobody important]

Yes the jet has been part of the center line since 2011-12.

I guess this is the first time I've seen a close up shot. From where I sit, they're just little white marks in the line.

 

[PhilJets]

The team is pretty much lock and loaded . Ready to go

Goalies
Mason, Helly

Dmen
Buff, Trouba,Myers, Enstrom, Kulikov, Morrissey, chairot
Poolman

Only 1-2 forwards might surprise if they do well
Wheeler, Schiefele, Laine, Little, Ehlers, Perrault, Lowry,
Armia, connor, copp, Matthias, dano
Tanev, Petan

Hendrick, Roslovic
Lemiuex

Only Line designation left

xxx Schiefele xxx
xxx Little xxx
xxx Lowry xxx
xxx xxx xxx

xxx Byfuglien
xxx Trouba
xxx Myers

Those are only the guaranteed spots players will play where. Otherwise , rest is still guessing.

GO JETS GO!!!

 

[libertarian]

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/09/08/diving-in

Slowly, Poolman built up his strength to the point where he was skating in early August.

The second development that could affect Poolman’s ability to crack the lineup this season is the team’s summer signing of veteran free agent Dmitry Kulikov.

Suddenly the Jets blue line looks reasonably solid.

Poolman brushes aside questions about making the team with a one-day-at-a-time approach.

[...]

If history is any kind of guide we will have a injured by the second period of the first game and Poolman will be with the team on game 2.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

The defensive battle will be for that 7th spot.

Chiarot, Poolman and Niku will most likely be competing for it, and I believe all will play NHL games this season.

This is the first season that there are some options on the backend that offer skill.

 

[puck stoppa]

The defensive battle will be for that 7th spot.

Chiarot, Poolman and Niku will most likely be competing for it, and I believe all will play NHL games this season.

This is the first season that there are some options on the backend that offer skill.

Niku and Poolman will play big minutes with the Moose, no need to make them sit in the PB, that's where Chiarot can be. Niku will also want to adjust a bit to the NA ice so no way he's #7, but I see both being first two recalls if they show well.

 

[KingBogo]

The defensive battle will be for that 7th spot.

Chiarot, Poolman and Niku will most likely be competing for it, and I believe all will play NHL games this season.

This is the first season that there are some options on the backend that offer skill.

Since Chiarot needs waivers and sitting the PB is not ideal for development I'm guessing Poolman and Niku play big minutes on the Moose to start the season. I see them then getting call ups if they can slip directly into the line up.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

Since Chiarot needs waivers and sitting the PB is not ideal for development I'm guessing Poolman and Niku play big minutes on the Moose to start the season. I see them then getting call ups if they can slip directly into the line up.

I expect Chiarot will start the season in the PB, but also expect us to have multiple defensemen out at the same time, throughout this season.

If Niku or Poolman get their shot and make the most of it, the may bump Chiarot down the depth chart.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

Niku and Poolman will play big minutes with the Moose, no need to make them sit in the PB, that's where Chiarot can be. Niku will also want to adjust a bit to the NA ice so no way he's #7, but I see both being first two recalls if they show well.

I'm talking the true depth chart. Agree you want Poolman and Niku playing and developing with the Moose, and pretty sure they both will be there to start the season.

When they get their shot this season, and I believe they will, and they outperform Chiarot, which I believe they can, they will take over his minutes in the lineup, as our first call up for injuries to any of our top 6.

 

[KingBogo]

I'm talking the true depth chart. Agree you want Poolman and Niku playing and developing with the Moose, and pretty sure they both will be there to start the season.

When they get their shot this season, and I believe they will, and they outperform Chiarot, which I believe they can, they will take over his minutes in the lineup, as our first call up for injuries to any of our top 6.

Agreed, if Niku and Poolman prove themselves they likely leapfrog Chiarot into the lineup and then back to the Moose if everyone is healthy.

 

[Whileee]

Since Chiarot needs waivers and sitting the PB is not ideal for development I'm guessing Poolman and Niku play big minutes on the Moose to start the season. I see them then getting call ups if they can slip directly into the line up.

Realistically, Niku needs some work to play effectively in his own zone without the puck, especially in the North American rinks. Poolman is probably closer because he's more advanced in development.

I think that Chiarot will be the first option if a LHD is out, and Poolman is first choice for a RHD.

 

[Weezeric]

I think it's quite likely that next summer enstrom is not resigned, Myers is traded and niku-poolman is our bottom pair next year.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

Funny how a year ago, our defensive depth situation was so bleak, this year feels much more promising.

There are some ifs, if Niku and Poolman are NHL ready, if Myers and Toby can stay relatively healthy, but if both happen, we will have a very strong defensive rotation that can handle injuries.


Factor in that options like Nogier still exist, and showed he had some potential at the NHL level, Melchiori showed he can fill a hole for a game or 2, I feel much more confident in our defence this season than any previous one.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

I would be very high on Poolman if he did not just have Dbl shoulder surgery. He was not in the line-up for the first 2 Y.G. games.

Shoulder surgery is tough to come back from as it's part of your core strength. Look at how FEHR stunk up the joint when we traded for him in the first year/ after his shoulder surgery. He was 1/2 the player he was in later years for Wash/ Pitts. When he was finally fully recovered.

I am a big Poolman fan, but I am cautious that we may not see his best for a year.

 

[Aavco Cup]

I think it's quite likely that next summer enstrom is not resigned, Myers is traded and niku-poolman is our bottom pair next year.

Enstrom might be comtemplating retirement although it was rumoured that the quid pro quo for him waiving his NMC in june was a promise of an extension.

 

[csk]

Funny how a year ago, our defensive depth situation was so bleak, this year feels much more promising.

There are some ifs, if Niku and Poolman are NHL ready, if Myers and Toby can stay relatively healthy, but if both happen, we will have a very strong defensive rotation that can handle injuries.


Factor in that options like Nogier still exist, and showed he had some potential at the NHL level, Melchiori showed he can fill a hole for a game or 2, I feel much more confident in our defence this season than any previous one.

I'm pretty ok with Nogier & Melchiori as 10/11 on the depth chart

 

[CaptainChef]

No hockey = Mad TomServo

EDIT: I thought True North would retire Stuarts number.

Or at least keep it handy should the PK fail to materialize again -- maybe we can unbuy the buy-out

 

[CaptainChef]

The defensive battle will be for that 7th spot.

Chiarot, Poolman and Niku will most likely be competing for it, and I believe all will play NHL games this season.

This is the first season that there are some options on the backend that offer skill.

Nah, no competition there. Management wouldn't want to chance putting Chiarot on waivers (heaven help us) and there're more than comfortable with Poolman & Niku starting on the Moose so I don't see a real competition going on there

 

[CaptainChef]

I would be very high on Poolman if he did not just have Dbl shoulder surgery. He was not in the line-up for the first 2 Y.G. games.

Shoulder surgery is tough to come back from as it's part of your core strength. Look at how FEHR stunk up the joint when we traded for him in the first year/ after his shoulder surgery. He was 1/2 the player he was in later years for Wash/ Pitts. When he was finally fully recovered.

I am a big Poolman fan, but I am cautious that we may not see his best for a year.

And thats the other part of it. Don't want to push Poolman after a major surgery like that so both Pool & Niku start on the Moose. If Nogier has a good camp, I see him getting a chance at the Jets

 

[Shazzam]

If history is any kind of guide we will have a injured by the second period of the first game and Poolman will be with the team on game 2.

Don't even joke about it. Jinx!

 

[Shazzam]

The defensive battle will be for that 7th spot.

Chiarot, Poolman and Niku will most likely be competing for it, and I believe all will play NHL games this season.

This is the first season that there are some options on the backend that offer skill.

I'm guessing (hoping) Chiarot is pushed out of the lineup before the end of the season.

 

[Daximus]

Most excited I have ever been for TC. Do we have some boots on the ground to keep us updated?

 

[CaptainChef]

One thing I picked up from an interview TSN did with Maurice this week was that they were holding back a few of their borderline players from going to Penticton so they could have a mini-TC of their own getting them to focus on what they might need to do in TC to excel.

Sure it hurt the product we sent down there, but I really liked that approach. For young guys coming into TC, it can be daunting & I imagine most are trying too hard to impress (maybe in all the wrong ways). Not sure if this is a new approach, but I like it.

 

[allan5oh]

So then what's the value of Penticton?

Maybe it's more for systems?