Rumor: Trade Rumours & Proposals Thread: Still debating ALL the unlikely options

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s7ark

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If the Columbus fans would take Chychrun, Jenner and Rychel over Matthews and RNH then they are out of their minds. Plain and simple. Matthews has probably a better than 50-50 chance to be the best player their franchise ever had. Perhaps by a lot. At the same age he is way ahead of Johansen for example. It would surprise me if he is not better than Nash.

Frankly Matthews for Chychrun and Jenner would be a big win for Columbus.

Stauffer seems rather convinced Darnell is not getting sent down.

Maybe there is something else brewing rather than a few demotions to the AHL.

Absolutely. I wouldn't touch that deal with a ten foot pole.

This team doesn't have the necessary depth to send Darnell down to the AHL.

we can hope... been waiting for a good Oiler trade for some time

Sekera - Fayne
Reinhart - Schultz
Clendening - Gryba

....we sorta do, but it's not what you'd consider good depth.

Having Reinhart here over Nurse makes little sense.

One of those three RHD need to be moved ASAP.


That defensive lineup just made me dry heave a little bit.

yea this is the Proposal thread, don't post lineups like that unless you want to scare people:laugh:

Not right now they don't, but once Klefbom returns maybe the Oilers revisit sending Nurse down.

Regardless, I could see Nurse heading down to the Condors for their playoff run once the Oilers run out of playoff drive runway.

Klefbom Hamonic (8M)
Nurse Sekera (6.5M)
Davidson Vatanen (7M) Both RFA's. Generous estimates at 2M and 5M respectively.

So around 20-22 million depending on the RFA deals. If Davidson and Vatanen are signed to 4-6 year deals the only increase in salary will be on Nurse's 2nd contract. Very affordable group with a ton of potential and room for growth.

As for the cost to acquire both players, I would be fine sacrificing all of RNH, Eberle, and Yak to make it happen. The Oilers would probably get a forward back in that scenario too. A top 5 draft pick who can step right into a 3rd line role, as well as a bunch of UFA forwards who fit the Oilers needs, will not just replace those 3, it make the forward group more productive overall.

True, but as an aside he figures Davidson will likely be activated for the Thursday game in Ottawa as well.

So that would put them with 8 d-men on the roster.

Sekera-Schultz-Nurse-Gryba-Reinhart-new guy-Davidson-Fayne

Something has to give.

Oil will send Schultz down for mcdavid roster spot trolololol

You are seriously overrating Murray and underrating Klefbom.

I'm sitting here looking at a bottle of Scotch just waiting for the Schultz trade. I will celebrate harder than if I just hit a bonus on my entry level deal in a meaningless game at the end of the year when the word comes down.

I think that leaves a bigger hole up front then you think and UFA's are never a sure thing. We are, without RNH hurting for a 3C. Without Yak and Eberle we literally have no RW. We do not have the depth to make those moves unfortunately
Hall Dra XXx
Pou Mcd XXX.
Kass XXX Pakar
Hend Let Juajar
Big pieces missing. We can move them but not strictly for D
 

Jet Walters

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Just consulted with my lunar charts. The window to trade soft danglers for defense will be open between February 19th-24th. Make it happen Chia.
 

duul

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Something to think about:

Seguin
Landeskog
Murray
Ristolainen
Draisaitl
McDavid

Landeskog-McDavid-Seguin
Kassian-Draisaitl-Eberle
Pouliot-Lander-Pakarinen
Hendricks-Letestu-Korpikoski

Klefbom-Ristolainen
Sekera-Murray
Davidson-Schultz

No more defence issues. More balanced forward group. What could have been...
 

McAsuno

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Something to think about:

Seguin
Landeskog
Murray
Ristolainen
Draisaitl
McDavid

Landeskog-McDavid-Seguin
Kassian-Draisaitl-Eberle
Pouliot-Lander-Pakarinen
Hendricks-Letestu-Korpikoski

Klefbom-Ristolainen
Sekera-Murray
Davidson-Schultz

No more defence issues. More balanced forward group. What could have been...

And? Doesn't mean all of them would pan out the same way with this team that didn't have the same veterans/dman/goalies along with the worst management, coaches, and drafting.
 

The Nuge

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Something to think about:

Seguin
Landeskog
Murray
Ristolainen
Draisaitl
McDavid

Landeskog-McDavid-Seguin
Kassian-Draisaitl-Eberle
Pouliot-Lander-Pakarinen
Hendricks-Letestu-Korpikoski

Klefbom-Ristolainen
Sekera-Murray
Davidson-Schultz

No more defence issues. More balanced forward group. What could have been...

If we want the best team possible, I still take Hall and Nuge. Murray would have helped (if he can stay healthy) and Risto is currently better than Nurse, but Nurse is a harder player to acquire
 

McDeathbyCheerios*

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Something to think about:

Seguin
Landeskog
Murray
Ristolainen
Draisaitl
McDavid

Landeskog-McDavid-Seguin
Kassian-Draisaitl-Eberle
Pouliot-Lander-Pakarinen
Hendricks-Letestu-Korpikoski

Klefbom-Ristolainen
Sekera-Murray
Davidson-Schultz

No more defence issues. More balanced forward group. What could have been...
If you change who we drafted, who knows if we would of been in the spots to get them. Or if they would of turned out the same.
 

duul

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If we want the best team possible, I still take Hall and Nuge. Murray would have helped (if he can stay healthy) and Risto is currently better than Nurse, but Nurse is a harder player to acquire

Why would you take Nuge over Landeskog if we have McDavid + Draisaitl?
 

Spawn

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If we want the best team possible, I still take Hall and Nuge. Murray would have helped (if he can stay healthy) and Risto is currently better than Nurse, but Nurse is a harder player to acquire

Nurse is a harder player to acquire than Ristolainen? Ristolainen a right shot d-man playing 25 minutes a night and is on pace for 50 points. That player is as hard to acquire as it gets. Anyways, McDuul's argument is pretty nebulous. In each of those cases, with the exception of Draisaitl and maybe Nurse, the Oilers took the player that was unanimously considered the best player available.

It's easy to look back at things with hindsight when you know what you know now.
 

McOilers97

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I have a real feeling that if Seguin had been drafted by the Oilers, he wouldn't have turned out nearly as well as he has. Hall just seems much more grounded and able to keep himself on track.
 

Draiskull

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If we dont win one of the 3 Lottos... Edm 1st + Fayne for Brent Burns.
What would Chiarelli have to add to that assuming it is a 4-8pick ?
 

oXo Cube

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If Burns ever was available(doubt this), I would pay what it takes.

Seems like the best gamble out there in terms of extension potential.

Also I just have a huge mancrush on him.
 

Not Robin Brownlee

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Something to think about:

Seguin
Landeskog
Murray
Ristolainen
Draisaitl
McDavid

Landeskog-McDavid-Seguin
Kassian-Draisaitl-Eberle
Pouliot-Lander-Pakarinen
Hendricks-Letestu-Korpikoski

Klefbom-Ristolainen
Sekera-Murray
Davidson-Schultz

No more defence issues. More balanced forward group. What could have been...

I ran a rather difficult math problem thru my computer and based on this formula it looks like we would have not been able to draft 97.
 

Draiskull

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We wouldn't have HAD McDavid or Draisaitl at the time of that draft.

Lay aside the 20/20 hindsight goggles and try making sense.

exactly... to all the shouldve couldve posts my one word answer is McDavid...
We would not have landed him had we changed much... From MacT to Eakins to Pronger to Souray to trades to injuries ...everything happened for a reason which landed us McDavid. Time to move on ..
 

Jet Walters

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Eberle has way more value than Reinhart

Depends who the buyer is. Reinhart would be a more attractive piece to a few teams. In general, yes Eberle would return more.

I've thrown both of these players into Burns proposals in the last few months.

Eberle, Reinhart + for Burns
 

suddeninterest

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So here is something I came up with. There are a lot of proposals of OEL for 1st overall, but what about trying to get Faulk out of Carolina for that pick if we happen to win it? I think Faulk and the 1OA being the base for a trade is way more likely than OEL for several reasons, and for me makes sense on the whole.

1. Out of conference trade vs. In division trade.
2. Carolina has a much greater need for young elite forward prospects, especially at centre than Ari does. Ari already has a potential young 1C in Strome.
3. Carolina has a greater depth of defense and defensive prospects than Ari.
4. Carolina already has a young potential #1D in Hanifin to replace Faulk in that respect, Ari has nothing close to that.
5. Carolina has just as good/better assets if they wished to acquire a replacement for Faulk such as Shattenkirk. Their own 2016 pick will probably fall between 5-10, they can trade it or draft someone like Sergachev, plus they own LAK pick this year which will probably be between 23-30. Eric Stall could also be traded in a package. And then they can always try to sign a UFA.

So what do people think? Is this a deal that could make sense?
 
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