Trade Rumors and Proposals: "Keep your friends close but your enemies closer" version

[Rebels57]

The team, and specifically Couturier, were all clearly better on the ice after the Filppula trade and he arrived with a 4th for the corpse of Mark Streit.

How anyone has any issue with that trade is still beyond my comprehension.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Magua]

And people still think MacDonald for 3 years @ $4 mil would not be tradable or need to be attached to some quality asset to be ridden of. C'mon!

 

[CoutseysCorner92]

Guys the more I read about Patrick the less I am enthused about drafting him. Obviously a huge need of this team is future 1st line center and drafting Patrick at number 2 would give us the best chance of acquiring that need out of the options available in this draft.

However, trading the pick to acquire that player is something I would look into as well.

Any chance we could pry Mackinnon out of Colorado. Would Schenn + 2nd overall + d prospect be a fair offer?

 

[bennysflyers16]

Some real chatter on NHL radio that one of the guests really felt that Vegas would have the #2 pick come tomorrow night. They apparently love Patrick and will bid hard for him. Expects that they'd offer their 3 firsts

Makes zero sense, We need quality over quantity and Devils are in dire need of Quantity. If any trade is to be made by Vegas it will be with the Devils.

Vegas gets Nolan
Flyers get Nico

Devils get a D man at 6 and fwd next picks

 

[backburner]

Some real chatter on NHL radio that one of the guests really felt that Vegas would have the #2 pick come tomorrow night. They apparently love Patrick and will bid hard for him. Expects that they'd offer their 3 firsts

not enough IMO.

5 firsts + pickard

 

[Striiker]

Many see MacKinnon as a winger.

Patrick probably has a better chance to be a 1C at this point.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

Guys the more I read about Patrick the less I am enthused about drafting him. Obviously a huge need of this team is future 1st line center and drafting Patrick at number 2 would give us the best chance of acquiring that need out of the options available in this draft.

However, trading the pick to acquire that player is something I would look into as well.

Any chance we could pry Mackinnon out of Colorado. Would Schenn + 2nd overall + d prospect be a fair offer?

That's an overpayment

 

[renberg]

Some real chatter on NHL radio that one of the guests really felt that Vegas would have the #2 pick come tomorrow night. They apparently love Patrick and will bid hard for him. Expects that they'd offer their 3 firsts

Thanks but no thanks. Talk to the Devils.

 

[Curufinwe]

not enough IMO.

5 firsts + pickard

#2 doesn't even guarantee you Patrick so the deal would have to be with NJ.

 

[Jtown]

Guys the more I read about Patrick the less I am enthused about drafting him. Obviously a huge need of this team is future 1st line center and drafting Patrick at number 2 would give us the best chance of acquiring that need out of the options available in this draft.

However, trading the pick to acquire that player is something I would look into as well.

Any chance we could pry Mackinnon out of Colorado. Would Schenn + 2nd overall + d prospect be a fair offer?

What about Patrick does not appeal to you?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Need more Hagg & Laughton in that trade offer.

 

[tade]

I really don't understand how some of you can say: "I really don't care about this player." It feels like you are not even that much of a fan when you say something like that. Or better one: "I don't care about him, since he's not long-term player."

So what? How can you say that and still feel as a real fan of the team? Are you cheering for 8 core players or are some of you guys cheering for the Flyers as a team? Because it sometimes looks like some of you are cheering only for top players, or for young stars/prospects and basically for 'nothing more'. Maybe now you will laugh at me for having this opinion and for having this feeling while reading some of those comments (maybe it's only bad understanding on my part, then sorry), but it is really weird for me seeing something like this over and over. I have never felt like this about any player on the Flyers, outside of obvious players like Vandevelde (this season) or Umberger in his last season here - and that's probably all from recent future.

Sometimes it seems like you are cheering for the future Flyers team and not for the team that we have right now in front of us, and it surely doesn't seem right... It's off-season anyway, so wanted to post this here as this is really surprising for me.

 

[The Burdened]

Any chance we could pry Mackinnon out of Colorado. Would Schenn + 2nd overall + d prospect be a fair offer?

Ew. Gross.

 

[whitstifier]

Guys the more I read about Patrick the less I am enthused about drafting him. Obviously a huge need of this team is future 1st line center and drafting Patrick at number 2 would give us the best chance of acquiring that need out of the options available in this draft.

However, trading the pick to acquire that player is something I would look into as well.

Any chance we could pry Mackinnon out of Colorado. Would Schenn + 2nd overall + d prospect be a fair offer?

Rather have Patrick than MacKinnon. Adding Schenn and D prospect makes it an easy no for me

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Ew. Gross.

I second this response.

 

[The Burdened]

So what? How can you say that and still feel as a real fan of the team?

Put the "real fan" card back in the deck, sweetie.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Rather have Patrick than MacKinnon. Adding Schenn and D prospect makes it an easy no for me

Why is that? Honestly asking.

 

[Jtown]

Why is that? Honestly asking.

one is a center the other is a wing and a disappointment.

 

[whitstifier]

Why is that? Honestly asking.

By many accounts, Patrick is a much more intelligent player. Low cost and approximate scoring upside make it an easy choice.

 

[The Burdened]

I mean, I would probably trade #2 for MacKinnon in a one for one. Maybe. Would have to really look and see how much C he played last year and if he was any good at it.
Would I add Schenn and one of our d prospects? No ****ing way; that would be crazy to me.

If Patrick pans out, what is the gap really between MacK and Patrick? Is there even one? Obv MacK is an established NHL player with room to grow still, so there is less risk obv.

 

[whitstifier]

one is a center the other is a wing and a disappointment.

He's about to turn 22 and he's been good for around 50-60 pts per season. 70 pt upside seems feasible

 

[Jtown]

He's about to turn 22 and he's been good for around 50-60 pts per season. 70 pt upside seems feasible

maybe its just me, but i thought mackinnon was going to be very special. A ppg center.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

one is a center the other is a wing and a disappointment.

Fair enough, though I am not sure I'd call MacKinnon a disappointment. He's only 21 and has never scored fewer than 50 points in a season with the exception of the one season he only played in 64 games and still paced for 50 points. I'd be willing to bet he gets back into the 60s and probably hits 70 at some point in his career.

 

[Jtown]

Fair enough, though I am not sure I'd call MacKinnon a disappointment. He's only 21 and has never scored fewer than 50 points in a season with the exception of the one season he only played in 64 games and still paced for 50 points. I'd be willing to bet he gets back into the 60s and probably hits 70 at some point in his career.

he is a dissappointment in the way rnh and hall are dissappointments. First overall picks , good players . But you were hoping for more and they did not hit their ceiling.