Mmmm... You may be right, but I'm not sure about it. In any case, I don't think it would take much more for it to happen.
Speculation: Trade Proposal Thread v4 - Trade or No Trade Edition
- Thread starter Coldplay
- Start date
- Status
Mmmm... You may be right, but I'm not sure about it. In any case, I don't think it would take much more for it to happen.
Yes. A first doesn't mean he'll end up being a top 6. Plenty of first rounders become just that: third liners. Or fourth liners. Or career AHLers... And Beaulieu may have been draft in the first round, but he's certainly not developping like an impactful first round draft pick.
It is irrelevant to state that you're trading a first round pick when the player has already been draft. In that case, Habs shouldn't have trade Chipchura for Simmons?
Will you give up Beaulieu and 1st to the next guy who is over 6' tall and scores a goal
What do you mean, beaulieu isn't developing like an impactful 1st rounder? How many hamilton games do you regularly watch?
Should the habs have traded Maxpac for Simmonds?
Drafting is one of the few things this organization has got right in the past few years. Trading away top picks for fringe top 6 players is toronto maple leafs territory.
- Jun 24, 2012
- 83,947
- 151,370
Why should we even consider moving Patches at this point?
He's not a power forward but he still brings elements of physicality around the boards. And he certainly has a knack for scoring.
Found an interesting comparable with Nash, on another forum:
- 2013-2014: Nash .35 goals per game, Pacioretty .46 goals per game
- 2012-2013: Nash .47 goals per game, Pacioretty .34 goals per game
- 2011-2013: Nash .39 goals per game, Pacioretty .40 goals per game
- Average over the past 3 years: Nash .39 goals per game, Pacioretty .40 goals per game
Disclaimer: did not vet the above figures
Not suggesting Nash should be a measuring stick of anything, but only that it's interesting to see how MaxPac is progressing against a bigger name -- we should instead be buying into the stats of the guy who will become the bigger name, if we're patient enough and don't foolishly trade him off, when he hasn't even entered his prime years.
Gotta love the character assasination that I see on this board. If I was a player, I couldn't wait to come here so that I could be ripped to shreds by a bunch of couch potatoes.
Maybe guys like Lecavalier decide, that for similar money, why put up with the brain damage.
Maybe guys like Lecavalier decide, that for similar money, why put up with the brain damage.
Some. And I reed everything I can. Enough to know that he still has upside, that he may reach the NHL, but that he wouldn't be such a loss if traded for a player that makes the team better by bringing something it doesn't have while being on a good contract. Beaulieu certainly is not playing like a top 2 d-man, barely a top 4 right now.
Of course not, and it is not what I said. I was refering to your logic to consider a player already drafted as a first round pick no matter how he's developping. My point is that drafting is a crapshoot, and a team should be able to trade a pick from time to time, especially if it's making the team better for a reasonnable amount of time, by bringing a type of player the team doesn't have on hand, and even in the pipeline. Habs draft well, it's true, but the same Timmins also drafted Fisher and Chipchura in the first round. Nobody's perfect. I don't think Toronto regrets having trade for Kessel that much since he's a pure scorer, something hard to have and developp, and he's still young.
Refering to bad trades from other teams doesn't mean every trade is bad. Good trades happen, and while I agree it is highly subjective, I believe trading a first and Beaulieu for Simmonds would be a good trade given the team's makeup.
Hey guys, what day is trade deadline day? And do you think the struggling teams will trade in Jan/2014 or wait until deadline day?
Tim Wallach
Registered User
He had 30+ points last year in 67 AHL games, only turned 1/3 of the way into the season. He didn't look out of place in the NHL either.
I definitely wouldn't trade Beaulieu for a mid 1st rounder right now.
Frozenice
No Reverse Gear
- Jan 1, 2010
- 7,021
- 521
When I look at the 2013 draft, below the 15th pick I'd trade Beaulieu straight up for the player, 15th I'd flip a coin and above that I'd pass on trading him. I'd say mid 1st rounder is his worth.
- Jun 24, 2012
- 83,947
- 151,370
If I were a player and if I didn't like what was said here about me and I cared enough, I'd do like the Remington guy or what Howard Hughes would have done, and buy the site off.
Right after, I'd go back to chasing the most beautiful lady-specimens that youth, money and status can attract and laugh off about how some random couch potatoes are keeping my name floating about the internets.
Rumblings on the radio today of a MTL - NYR swap happening soon..no idea if there is any truth to it.
To NYR:
Raphael Diaz
Daniel Briere
Pick
To MTL:
Michael Del Zotto
Taylor Pyatt
To NYR:
Raphael Diaz
Daniel Briere
Pick
To MTL:
Michael Del Zotto
Taylor Pyatt
- Jun 24, 2012
- 83,947
- 151,370
Dagistitsyn
Registered User
Smokey Thompson
Registered User
I'm not a fan of MDZ at all, and there's the whole left D/right D thing here to consider as well.
Turning Briere into Taylor Pyatt, though? Sign me up.
Frozenice
No Reverse Gear
- Jan 1, 2010
- 7,021
- 521
Last night during the hockey game stream I was watching (Phoenix) they were talking about Chipchurra. He had talked to them about playing in Montreal and had said that " when you're playing well the fans will let you know and when you're playing bad they'll let you know."
You don't have to come here to find out what fans think of you.
BigHabs
#11
- Aug 3, 2009
- 6,773
- 700
I don't know why nobody checks teams actual cap situations then just assume they won't have enough. Just because Briere makes 4mill/per. By bringing in Del Zotto and Pyatt making more than Diaz it makes it close salary wise.
If this deal went through, the Rangers would still have 2.2mill in cap space.
They won't be jammed next year either considering they have.
8 UFA's which are mostly bottom 6 players. Outside of Girardi and Callahan.
If Sather plays it smart he could lock up a solid bottom 6 compared to players all making a million or more in the bottom 6 which they currently have.
Miller
Kristo
Fast
All could possibly play for the Rangers next season saving the Rangers money and also fill roster spots.
So all in all they can afford Briere this year and next year.
- Status
Ad
Latest posts
-
Pre-Game Talk: Oilers vs. Canucks - time to make Vancouver rainier than usual- Latest: ThreeOfAPerfectPair
Upcoming events
-
-
-
2024 NHL Draft Lottery Team that wins #1 pick - PICK ONLY ONE TEAMWagers: 9Staked: $11,200.00Event closes- Updated: