Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread - The real deadline edition

[Shabs]

Do I understand correctly? VGK basically get Cole from Pitt for just eating some of brassard’s salary and we couldn’t get in on that with all the cap space we have?

 

[The Great Weal]

He sure was. But he's not this year. Brassard has better numbers and Brassard's a center.

I have a feeling we're going to have to bring in a center or a player like Radulov to play with him so he can get his numbers up because right now his numbers suck, his play sucks, and I think his trade value sucks.

I guess you would trade Seguin for Marchessault because he is having a better season.

 

[Sterling Archer]

What's the expected return? Because McKenzie and LeBrun are saying Nash and Kane are more interesting to teams, and Hoffman may be too. They didn't seem too high on his trade value in conversations on tsn690.

On the contrary. They’re saying Patches would go after Nash and Kane because he’s worth more and teams want to pay less for a rental.

 

[Habs Icing]

So what are we going to get for Pacioretty, genius? Go ahead, step up and tell us what we're really going to get for him. So we can see how smart you really are when he goes. Put it on paper.

A 6 year extension on his birthday
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[Video Coach]

Brassard makes a lot of sense for the Pens and none for the Habs.

First of all, the age makes no sense. Second, you'd like to target a C with a higher ceiling than Brassard. He's shown his top end to be 2nd line centre, and although that would be useful, I'm not trading a 1st and a prospect for it.

I think adding another 1st round pick, especially one in the top 15 (maybe Florida, Carolina, Columbus, LA, St Louis, Edmonton) would be key.

 

[Rosso Scuderia]

He sure was. But he's not this year. Brassard has better numbers and Brassard's a center.

I have a feeling we're going to have to bring in a center or a player like Radulov to play with him so he can get his numbers up because right now his numbers suck, his play sucks, and I think his trade value sucks.

And not to mention that Brassard has way better playoffs success than Pacioretty.

I really don't know about Pacioretty's value league wide tbh. With the way he's playing lately, he's not worth a 2nd. He's having a horrible season and have NEVER proven that he can bring it with it counts. He's a limited player, that lacks intensity and hustle but with a quick release.

Yeah he got great number of goals in the past 5 years, we heard that tape several time.. but I never had the impression that Pacioretty was considered as a star/respected player in the league.

Usually a 5X 30 g scorer in the league would be in great demands if availabe but I think GMs in the league are not that impressed in Pacioretty despite his numbers.

I wish that I'm wrong... and a GM would probably still take a chance with Pacioretty for their cup run.. but with that said.. I'd be surprised to see Pacioretty getting trade by monday... Which is a shamed. His value keeps dropping by the days.

 

[SlyIslands]

 

[The Great Weal]

If we were in a playoff spot I would want Brassard, don't care otherwise.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Edit: @obcd1 beat me to it wit the LeBrun tweet about Plekanec.

 

[Habs100]

I guess you would trade Seguin for Marchessault because he is having a better season.

No, but a player's recent performances and age affect their trade value.

 

[The Great Weal]

He will resign.

 

[Adam Michaels]

It is exactly what I thought of as soon as the Brassard trade went down. Teams will turn to Habs for Plekanec.

 

[V13]

Whoever goes first between Nash/Kane/Pacioretty/Hoffman will set the price for the other 3

So stay tuned. As soon as one of those guys move we will have an idea on what Patches would fetch based on the return.

 

[Draft]

I think Plek with %50 retained can get a late 1st. He's shown he can shutdown top lines in the playoffs before and he's low-maintenance. Best centre available.

 

[Habfan10]

I can’t see us getting more than a 3rd rounder back and I’m sure will have to retain some salary. But we need lots of picks so bring them on.

 

[Habs100]

On the contrary. They’re saying Patches would go after Nash and Kane because he’s worth more and teams want to pay less for a rental.

They're also debating whether Hoffman and I think it was Brassard, is higher on teams' lists. Have you watched Pacioretty play this year?

 

[Habs100]

I think Plek with %50 retained can get a late 1st. He's shown he can shutdown top lines in the playoffs before and he's low-maintenance. Best centre available.

I would retain 100% for a 1st.

 

[Habs100]

Edit: @obcd1 beat me to it wit the LeBrun tweet about Plekanec.

This is very good news.

It relates to the Pacioretty case. We should probably wait until his skill set is highly sought after. There are a lot of scoring wingers available now. Not too many centers.

 

[Draft]

I would retain 100% for a 1st.

If only the CBA would allow it! Cap dump coming back would amount to the same I guess.

 

[Price is Wright]

What's the expected return? Because McKenzie and LeBrun are saying Nash and Kane are more interesting to teams, and Hoffman may be too. They didn't seem too high on his trade value in conversations on tsn690.

It's because they don't think he will get traded while Kane and Nash (are these wrestlers or hockey players?) are rentals.

Here's LeBrun:

As of Thursday night, I don’t sense much going on regarding Max Pacioretty. That can change quickly before Monday’s deadline once guys like Nash and Kane go. The problem with a Pacioretty deal is this: as long as Montreal insists on wanting an NHL-ready player as part of the package, which I think GM Marc Bergevin is, then it’s harder for contending teams to contemplate since they don’t want to take away from their current roster in a Cup run. No question teams have called suggesting picks/prospects packages for Pacioretty but unless something changes, I think Montreal is content to wait until June to make a hockey deal.

 

[Sterling Archer]

They're also debating whether Hoffman and I think it was Brassard, is higher on teams' lists. Have you watched Pacioretty play this year?

Have you watched Brassard the past 2 years??

 

[Habs100]

It's because they don't think he will get traded while Kane and Nash (are these wrestlers or hockey players?) are rentals.

Here's LeBrun:

I would take a package of picks and prospects. I don't think we're in a position to get a good enough NHL ready player.

 

[Price is Wright]

I would take a package of picks and prospects. I don't think we're in a position to get a good enough NHL ready player.

So would I, but Bergevin is selling Molson on the idea of a retool. He's going to make a retool trade.

 

[Habs100]

So would I, but Bergevin is selling Molson on the idea of a retool. He's going to make a retool trade.

That's what worries me. He'll take a bad retool trade instead of a great futures trade. If he's not fired it will be Subban for Weber all over again.

 

[Adam Michaels]

It's because they don't think he will get traded while Kane and Nash (are these wrestlers or hockey players?) are rentals.

Here's LeBrun:

As of Thursday night, I don’t sense much going on regarding Max Pacioretty. That can change quickly before Monday’s deadline once guys like Nash and Kane go. The problem with a Pacioretty deal is this: as long as Montreal insists on wanting an NHL-ready player as part of the package, which I think GM Marc Bergevin is, then it’s harder for contending teams to contemplate since they don’t want to take away from their current roster in a Cup run. No question teams have called suggesting picks/prospects packages for Pacioretty but unless something changes, I think Montreal is content to wait until June to make a hockey deal.

Personally, I'm not hung up on the NHL-ready player. I'm thinking of a Joel Eriksson Ek type of NHL-ready player MB covets. Probably a young player in his 1st or 2nd season with some NHL games under their belts.

I wouldn't mind if they acquire multiple prospects and picks only. The kind of prospects I'm thinking of are center Sam Steel and LD Josh Mahura from Anaheim. Both those players play in the WHL with Cale Fleury in Regina. They're not NHL-ready. So instead of an NHL-ready player, I would ask for another top prospect instead along with a pick or two.