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If he can turn Monahan into Moneyhands, he can turn PLD into ???
If he can turn Monahan into Moneyhands, he can turn PLD into ???
I know what you are looking to do here, but presuming the team really prefers one of these over the others, what happens if you lose out on Demidov and Lindstrom AND the next F on the list? The team already has 12 picks in Rounds 1-3 of the next two drafts and there's already something of a logjam for contracts, roster spots etc. Not sure adding another late first/early 2nd is worth missing out on the best available F at 5OV.So trade down with a team that really wants a specfici d-man, and go for whoever is still available betwewen Igionla, Eiserman, or Sennecke, while picking up a nice bonus for the trade-down.
Hence the trade-down strategy. Another option is to trade UP from the Winnipeg rank to get Sennecke.
Price only knows.
Putrid Lazy Doofus.If he can turn Monahan into Moneyhands, he can turn PLD into ???
Why would the Habs give up the two best players in the deal? This is awful.What do you guys think of this trade, value wise :
To Montreal :
15th OA pick
Husso (cap dump for 1 year)
To Detroit :
Matheson
Beck
No.What do you guys think of this trade, value wise :
To Montreal :
15th OA pick
Husso (cap dump for 1 year)
To Detroit :
Matheson
Beck
Because what's coming back isn't a player...Why would the Habs give up the two best players in the deal? This is awful.
And so would the Habs and they have a better chance to make the playoffs than Detroit.Because what's coming back isn't a player...
Matheson alone isn't bringing back a 15th OA pick IMO. Beck might be giving too much value, but he could be swapped with another prospect to adjust value. Taking back Husso brings flexibility to Detroit under the cap and doesn't hurt us.
Of course you don't do this deal before the draft, but it could be arranged beforehand in case someone we like slips to 15. Would I make a Matheson + Beck vs Catton/Sennecke deal? Absolutely!
Detroit is looking to make the playoffs next year. They would rather have a 20/21 years old prospect than drafting an 18yo and wait 2-3 years before he's ready.
What do you guys think of this trade, value wise :
To Montreal :
15th OA pick
Husso (cap dump for 1 year)
To Detroit :
Matheson
Beck
I think that's good value wise. GMs around the league know that if they're adding Matheson to a properly built team, he isn't a 60 point d-man because on a properly built team he won't be playing 25+mins a game. The Beck addition makes it hurt a bit more, but considering the depth of the draft, if a player like Eiserman drops, Montreal should happily do it.What do you guys think of this trade, value wise :
To Montreal :
15th OA pick
Husso (cap dump for 1 year)
To Detroit :
Matheson
Beck
I like it. But I don't think Yzerman trades his top 15 pick at this stage in his build. he's said many times he thinks he can get top talent without finishing bottom 5 by having a good scouting department. That's why he's ok with being a bubble team. I think he'll try to add vets in other ways. Can't see him giving up that pick.What do you guys think of this trade, value wise :
To Montreal :
15th OA pick
Husso (cap dump for 1 year)
To Detroit :
Matheson
Beck
The Habs are looking to take a step forward. Trading a 60 point defenceman that makes less than $5m per year for a draft pick is just silly. Adding one of our top prospects makes it asinine. Getting back a third goalie which is something that hurt the team this year makes it stupid.Because what's coming back isn't a player...
Matheson alone isn't bringing back a 15th OA pick IMO. Beck might be giving too much value, but he could be swapped with another prospect to adjust value. Taking back Husso brings flexibility to Detroit under the cap and doesn't hurt us.
Of course you don't do this deal before the draft, but it could be arranged beforehand in case someone we like slips to 15. Would I make a Matheson + Beck vs Catton/Sennecke deal? Absolutely!
Detroit is looking to make the playoffs next year. They would rather have a 20/21 years old prospect than drafting an 18yo and wait 2-3 years before he's ready.
Yeah I would be quite happy if Habs came out of the 1st rd with both Iginla and Eiserman.If someone like Eiserman slipped to that range, I'd be all over it. I think this kid will be a 30 goal threat in the NHL. He's young like Iggy and has solid weight early on
Getting both Iggy and Eiserman. Sign me up
If he can turn Monahan into Moneyhands, he can turn PLD into ???
Moneypenney.If he can turn Monahan into Moneyhands, he can turn PLD into ???
50% retained, I think he's movable. Teams like depth at center, at a low cost.The interesting thing for me this offseason will he if KH can find a suitor for Dvorak.
With one year remaining on his contract, risk is very low for any team that will be trading for him.
Wtf would we do that for?What do you guys think of this trade, value wise :
To Montreal :
15th OA pick
Husso (cap dump for 1 year)
To Detroit :
Matheson
Beck
Why do you like that trade? Dman with 60 points and third most minutes played last year plus a really good center prospect for 15th overall and a cap dump? Are you nuts?I like it. But I don't think Yzerman trades his top 15 pick at this stage in his build. he's said many times he thinks he can get top talent without finishing bottom 5 by having a good scouting department. That's why he's ok with being a bubble team. I think he'll try to add vets in other ways. Can't see him giving up that pick.
Wtf would we do that for?
Why do you like that trade? Dman with 60 points and third most minutes played last year plus a really good center prospect for 15th overall and a cap dump? Are you nuts?
If you trade Matheson and Guhle stumbles, it becomes a mess. It reminds me of trading Huet because Price looked great young and almost destroying his development because of it. It’s hard to gauge value for good veteran stop gaps because they’re usually worth more to a GM and teams then they are in a trade.The worst arguement for keeping Matheson is to talk about proper d-pairings and how he'll be a veteran presence, then make your predicted pairings with Ghule on his right side. That's one of the main arguements in favour of trading Matheson