HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

HabbyGuy

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I agree that Zegras is better than Demidov. From a pure point perspective I thought he was no worse than the 3rd best player in his draft. In my keeper league if I hadn't lost the lottery i would have all the best players in that draft. I took Kakko 2nd, Caufield 5th, Zegras 12th (didn't think Cole would last until 12th). Also got Newhook. Tomasino, McMichael, Nick Robertson and filled with Boldy. I had Terry for years and he I was about to drop him when he started to produce.

I'd personally take Demidov over Zegras every time without any hesitation.
 

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I watched him recently and his hand and vision are elite even if it is obvious that he is struggling offensively. I even liked his backchecking, he was little lost when opposing team had possession in their own end, but that could be OK if you just play him as a winger. But he was so soft and weak, totally shy of any physical contact. This is really not a player who could bring us playoff success.
I think that’s a fair write up…. His offense isn’t even really struggling(could be a lot better with some puck luck/better line mates)…. But since coming back from injury he has 8 points In 10 games…. And has been our top forward, constantly dangerous. If you ignore the small sample size to start the season, that’s pretty explainable with common sense he’s basically on par with his normal production despite low shooting percentage + bad puck luck. You see his hands and vision and how easily he gets the offensive zone and think he’d be feasting on the power play…. But he has 0 assist on powerplay. and 1 goal. Once we fix the coaching staff and give him a shooter on his line, I think he’s gunna be a 90+ point player comfortably

Defensively he’s good on back check / neutral zone, but where he can def make improvements is in the d zone…. But to his defense, most of the players on the roster look lost in our own end, I think it’s def partially a systematic issue.

As for physicality…. I don’t think you get zegras or guys like caufield/Suzuki for their physical play….. and I do think zegras isn’t afraid of board battles or even hitting when the games or more intense…. I just think he’s in a spot where all we’re playing for is to lose by less than 4 goals most nights.
 
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If it was rigged, McDavid wouldn’t be in Edmonton, Vegas would’ve won the lottery when they expanded in, and we would’ve never won a lottery. I’m not worried about that.

Yeah, it's not rigged, it's silly to think so. I just have a feeling Utah is going to win it. I don't want any team who may be behind us in the draft order to win the lottery, I don't want to move down any further. That said they'd probably be the only team I'd feel ok about doing so. It'd be nice to finally get this franchise (Arizona) off of food stamps.

I just prefer if we can't win the lottery, that someone above us does.

God forbid a team like Ottawa or Jersey wins it, which would be bad enough, while knocking us down a peg as well. It would be a double whammy. This is the kind of thing I worry about.
 
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I'd personally take Demidov over Zegras every time without any hesitation.

No one who has watched Zegras, except like one dude for some reason, would legitimately want to pay the price for Zegras.

HockeyDB page is nice prior to this year, the actual style of play all over the ice is not championship hockey.

Demidov is a way better option and hopefully we are lucky enough to select him.
 

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No one who has watched Zegras, except like one dude for some reason, would legitimately want to pay the price for Zegras.

HockeyDB page is nice prior to this year, the actual style of play all over the ice is not championship hockey.

Demidov is a way better option and hopefully we are lucky enough to select him.

It depends on what "the price" is. Based on comparables like PLD, I wouldn't, but he may not be worth that.

Zegras has significant upside, but I wouldn't want to pay the premium for a player transitioning the to the NHL quicker. Personally, its the same situation as the Drouin trade vs trades like the Newhook trade for me - I'd rather take more risk for lesser cost than pay more for more certainty/previous performance in case it limits the organization's upside.
 

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No one who has watched Zegras, except like one dude for some reason, would legitimately want to pay the price for Zegras.

HockeyDB page is nice prior to this year, the actual style of play all over the ice is not championship hockey.

Demidov is a way better option and hopefully we are lucky enough to select him.
Please preach this more. We don’t need Zegras.
 

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If it was rigged, McDavid wouldn’t be in Edmonton, Vegas would’ve won the lottery when they expanded in, and we would’ve never won a lottery.
Vegas didn't need any more help. They were already given the keys to the bank with the expansion rules. And as I already posted there were no favored teams in the top 10 or 12 in the McDavid, Slaf drafts. If what I posted about the Hawks moving up so many time s is true the question is what are the odds of that happening?

No one who has watched Zegras, except like one dude for some reason, would legitimately want to pay the price for Zegras.

HockeyDB page is nice prior to this year, the actual style of play all over the ice is not championship hockey.

Demidov is a way better option and hopefully we are lucky enough to select him.
Have you watched Zegras play?
 

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If it was rigged, McDavid wouldn’t be in Edmonton, Vegas would’ve won the lottery when they expanded in, and we would’ve never won a lottery.
Well, it’s like the Enigma, you couldn’t rig it every time because it would be obvious and the cat would be out of the bag and you’re busted!

You methodically rig it so it works in the long run, not in the moment.

Having said that, I don’t think it’s rigged but f*** it looks suspicious!
 

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I would add Iginla to that list, depending on where they draft

Catton as well. No matter what happens we're going to end up with a great forward prospect. I'm just praying we get to have the pick of the litter.

C'mon lottery balls!!

Celebrini
Demidov
Lindstrom
Catton/Iginla I can't decide who I prefer... (I flip flop between the two)
Eiserman

Would be my order of preference. I wouldn't trade any of them for Zegras sans Eiserman, even then I'd probably just prefer to draft a D as they probably have more value than Zegras IMO.

Especially if all the fowards go quick at top of draft.
 
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Catton as well. No matter what happens we're going to end up with a great forward prospect. I'm just praying we get to have the pick of the litter.

C'mon lottery balls!!

Celebrini
Demidov
Lindstrom
Catton/Iginla I can't decide who I prefer... (I flip flop between the two)
Eiserman

Would be my order of preference. I wouldn't trade any of them for Zegras sans Eiserman, even then I'd probably just prefer to draft a D as they probably have more value than Zegras IMO.

Especially if all the fowards go quick at top of draft.
I would just go with Bobby Mac's list on draft day.....
 

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It's not rigged and this is really silly, the NHL draft is audited by EY. They're not going to risk their reputation making sure certain cities get to pick the 17 year old hockey players they want.
 
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Vegas didn't need any more help. They were already given the keys to the bank with the expansion rules. And as I already posted there were no favored teams in the top 10 or 12 in the McDavid, Slaf drafts. If what I posted about the Hawks moving up so many time s is true the question is what are the odds of that happening?


Have you watched Zegras play?

Yes.
 

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No one who has watched Zegras, except like one dude for some reason, would legitimately want to pay the price for Zegras.

HockeyDB page is nice prior to this year, the actual style of play all over the ice is not championship hockey.

Demidov is a way better option and hopefully we are lucky enough to select him.
Unless he is by far the best choice when Habs pick I wouldn't draft a Russian.
 

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At least 1 trade incoming this summer. We have too many LD. Matheson, Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Struble, Hutson...

Still have Savard and Barron on the right with Reinbacher and Mailloux waiting in Laval.
 
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