HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[MarkovsKnee]

Time for a new thread. It's no longer off-season.

Savard & Allen are must trades at TDL.

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[Lockin17]

MTL : Matheson
for
NASH : 2nd (Nash) 2024 + 2nd (Win) 2024

 

[Miller Time]

You're right about Chicago. They will overpay for a couple of players.

You can't really compare Killorn with Nylander tho. One is one of the best two-way center which also produces a lot on the scoresheet and the other is a point producer winger. They don't bring the same value in a line-up.

My main point being : Nylander's value > Hubby at the same salary either way.

I perhaps missed where Killorn moved to C? But either way, I don't think you'd find much support for an attempt to argue that he has anywhere close to Nylander's value on a UFA contract. Nylander will easily sign for significantly more than Killorn did last summer... That was my point (highlighting that summer UFA value is a factor of supply/demand, & this summer there will be huge demand & very limited supply for what Nylander represents= major contract).

To your last point... Yes and? I don't think anyone would suggest otherwise.

The question is not Nylander's value vs Huberdeau. That's obvious Nylander > Huberdeau (even if hubby is at 8M vs Nylander 10M+

But
Nylander @7x10+ vs
- Hubby @7x8M +
- 3x2nd +
- cond 1st +
- offloading Anderson/Armia/Price

& Now I think you might see how the scales look a bit different.

No idea how desperate the flames will get, and their ownership is notoriously stingy (so retaining may be a non starter), but if they get desperate enough, there's a deal that could make sense for us to choose that risk over the other risky propositions to add a legit top - 6 or top line talent

Hughes may forgo any risk all together and just patiently wait for internal prospects +/or Dach/Newhook type bets to pay off... But if we do go fishing for established top talent, Hubberdeau is at least worth kicking tires on

 

[The Real Timo]

Matheson, Anderson are must move. Despite his resurrected play Gallaghers contract is still atrocious so he can got to a playoffs team that needs truculence in the crease.

I’d keep Savard but only in the 3-6 position.

players like Evan’s, Dvo and Newhook can go too.

Keep Yoel! He is irreplaceable.

 

[Miller Time]

Matheson, Anderson are must move. Despite his resurrected play Gallaghers contract is still atrocious so he can got to a playoffs team that needs truculence in the crease.

I’d keep Savard but only in the 3-6 position.

players like Evan’s, Dvo and Nfwhook can go too.

Keep Yoel! He is irreplaceable.

Matheson "must move"

 

[The Great Weal]

Wonder if the Sabres would add a 2nd to trade Olofsson since they are rumored to sign Kane.

 

[eklund the clown]

Matheson "must move"

Yep no idea why we would trade Matheson ,I wouldn't get rid of him or any of our young Def .Maybe Kovacevic and certainly Savard and Wideman

 

[The Real Timo]

Yep no idea why we would trade Matheson ,I wouldn't get rid of him or any of our young Def .Maybe Kovacevic and certainly Savard and Wideman

Because for every goal Matheson may help to score he causes at least 3. He is a hot mess each and every game.

 

[HuGo boss]

Yep no idea why we would trade Matheson ,I wouldn't get rid of him or any of our young Def .Maybe Kovacevic and certainly Savard and Wideman

I agree I think MM looks so bad because he has to play 25+ a night, with a real #1 a d him down to 20 min and 2nd pp time I think he's an asset

 

[HomaridII]

So what are we trading for McDavid?

 

[Lockin17]

Yep no idea why we would trade Matheson ,I wouldn't get rid of him or any of our young Def .Maybe Kovacevic and certainly Savard and Wideman

you don't watch games don't you ??

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

MTL : Matheson
for
NASH : 2nd (Nash) 2024 + 2nd (Win) 2024

Would rather a 2nd in 2025 to be honest.

2025 looks like a good draft.

 

[Lockin17]

So what are we trading for McDavid?

Dach
Hutson
Reinbacher
Beck
Roy
Fowler
50 millions $

 

[The Real Timo]

Wonder if the Sabres would add a 2nd to trade Olofsson since they are rumored to sign Kane.

I don't follow sabres... is he any good? Can he play moar bigger?

 

[CaptainKirk]

Dach
Hutson
Reinbacher
Beck
Roy
Fowler
50 millions $

Hughes: “So we’re prepared to give you $50M, …”
Oilers Owner: “Deal!”
Hughes: “Oh. Ok.”

 

[Canadienna]

If I'm HuGo...

1) Decide on the goalies. No more BS with Primeau. Thank Allen for everything he's done and get as much of a haul as you can for him. Ride Monty/Primeau.

2) No rush, but I'd start to probe interest in some of our young left D to address the logjam. If there's interest out there for a guy like Harris, Struble, Engstrom etc. for a young forward, its done.

3) Move Monahan at the deadline. Stick to the plan, building for the future. We can always revisit in the summer depending on his interest/contract ask.

4) I would be open to moving Matheson, but I have this feeling that his play style wouldn't garner as much interest as his production might indicate, sort of like an Erik Gustafsson. If the value isn't there, I keep him.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

If I'm HuGo...

1) Decide on the goalies. No more BS with Primeau. Thank Allen for everything he's done and get as much of a haul as you can for him. Ride Monty/Primeau.

2) No rush, but I'd start to probe interest in some of our young left D to address the logjam. If there's interest out there for a guy like Harris, Struble, Engstrom etc. for a young forward, its done.

3) Move Monahan at the deadline. Stick to the plan, building for the future. We can always revisit in the summer depending on his interest/contract ask.

4) I would be open to moving Matheson, but I have this feeling that his play style wouldn't garner as much interest as his production might indicate, sort of like an Erik Gustafsson. If the value isn't there, I keep him.

Well said post , be patient the offer will come , But I would trade a goalie right now if possible , 3 string goalies is so bad

 

[Lockin17]

Hughes: “So we’re prepared to give you $50M, …”
Oilers Owner: “Deal!”
Hughes: “Oh. Ok.”

remember Lindros trade lolll

Just joking mate

 

[CHfan1]

Wonder if the Sabres would add a 2nd to trade Olofsson since they are rumored to sign Kane.

They have over $7 million in cap space. I don’t think they’ll need to move anyone to sign Kane.

 

[The Real Timo]

If I'm HuGo...

1) Decide on the goalies. No more BS with Primeau. Thank Allen for everything he's done and get as much of a haul as you can for him. Ride Monty/Primeau.

2) No rush, but I'd start to probe interest in some of our young left D to address the logjam. If there's interest out there for a guy like Harris, Struble, Engstrom etc. for a young forward, its done.

3) Move Monahan at the deadline. Stick to the plan, building for the future. We can always revisit in the summer depending on his interest/contract ask.

4) I would be open to moving Matheson, but I have this feeling that his play style wouldn't garner as much interest as his production might indicate, sort of like an Erik Gustafsson. If the value isn't there, I keep him.

I want to ask... how far out is the future? I figure I probably have maybe a couple of decades left in me, and that's if I am lucky and don't get heart attack or something like that in the meantime.

In the ideal world I'd like future to be in about 2-3 year time period (given that I've waited for thirty up until now). Monahan is a good player. He will be useful holding Habs over until the bright future arrives.

 

[Canadienna]

I want to ask... how far out is the future? I figure I probably have maybe a couple of decades left in me, and that's if I am lucky and don't get heart attack or something like that in the meantime.

In the ideal world I'd like future to be in about 2-3 year time period (given that I've waited for thirty up until now). Monahan is a good player. He will be useful holding Habs over until the bright future arrives.

That's fair.

I'm not ruling out the idea of resigning Monahan, but I wouldn't forgo the assets you could get for him at the deadline and I'd be cautious about any term.

I think he's filling that role of holding the Habs over right now. The trick is to know when to cut the chord.

 

[Milhouse40]

Well said post , be patient the offer will come , But I would trade a goalie right now if possible , 3 string goalies is so bad

It is bad but if they trade one, they need to fix the hole they are creating at the same time.
Not that easy.

If there's an injury to our goalies, they can't be calling Dobes up.....Laval is also very thin right now.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

It is bad but if they trade one, they need to fix the hole they are creating at the same time.
Not that easy.

If there's an injury to our goalies, they can't be calling Dobes up.....Laval is also very thin right now.

What hole exactly? Because of injuries? Teams with 2 goalies would have the same problem.

 

[Bottle Rocket]

Dach
Hutson
Reinbacher
Beck
Roy
Fowler
50 millions $

Plus my first born and my right kidney. But not my left one, let's send him to the ECHL instead.

 

[McGees]

MTL : Matheson
for
NASH : 2nd (Nash) 2024 + 2nd (Win) 2024

Why would they do that?
They aren't making the playoffs that they need to start trading picks.