Proposal: Trade/FA Thread '21 Offseason

[salbutera]

Is he a power forward or a Ryan Reeves that can hit but doesn't contribute offensively?

Pls stop...Reaves doesn’t make those off wing rushes w puck to the net, Teaves doesn’t make that play allowing Byron to get a breakaway. He’s specifically been told by his coach he & his linemates job is to hit the opposition any offense is a bonus

 

[26Mats]

Pls stop...Reaves doesn’t make those off wing rushes w puck to the net, Teaves doesn’t make that play allowing Byron to get a breakaway. He’s specifically been told by his coach he & his linemates job is to hit the opposition any offense is a bonus

He's closer to a 5.5M Reaves now than to a power forward.

The guy is playing hurt for sure

I mean, he was scoring at a 27 goal/82 game pace during the season.

After a fast start to the regular season, i.e. after the league started game planning for us, in his last 52 games played, these are his stats:
9g, 6a, for 14 points, and is -21.

That's a pace of 14 goals and 22 points in 82 games, and a -33.

Has he been injured the last 52 games? If the answer is yes, ok, that's a different story.

 

[Miller Time]

Yeah, Fowler means we're likely not getting a top 6 forward. Too much money.

he would, possibly... depends on how lucky we get with the expansion draft (Allen?) and with some GM's falling in love with the playoff storylines that inevitably prop some guys up to unrealistic/unsustainable reputations (the pisani effect!) to perhaps freeing up some more dollars...

but either way, adding an LD with that skill set would do wonders to improve more than just our weak LD issues, it would also greatly increase the productivity of our forward group and help our young talent take bigger strides offensively.... Anderson/Gally/Toffoli/Caufield/Lekhonen/Poehling (plus whatever of Perry/Byron/Drouin/Armia may be back) and Suzuki/JKO/Evans (plus Danault or his replacement) is a significantly better group the minute you replace Chiarot's ice time with that of a competent top-pairing or top-4 PMD.

 

[lamp9post]

Is he a power forward or a Ryan Reeves that can hit but doesn't contribute offensively?

I mean, he was scoring at a 27 goal/82 game pace during the season.

 

[1000eeer]

Drouin's value is Nolan Patrick. That's it, that's all.

And that's what will happen this offseason.

 

[Habs Halifax]

...Rags offer Kakko and/or Lafreniere with pluses (draft picks probably)...Kings offer Byfield plus...either beats the Habs offer here easily unless we get stupid and start with Suzuki...we need to forget about an Eichel package (unless the Sabres get really dumb and trade him for pennies on the dollar) and get a Top 4 PMD so Braindead Ben Shyterot never sees Top 4 duty with Montreal again...

I think the Rangers might offer one of Kakko or Lafreniere but doubt the Kings offer Byfield and the rumor I heard is the Kings are out.

 

[dinodebino]

Is he a power forward or a Ryan Reeves that can hit but doesn't contribute offensively?

He won't be traded, unless he asks for it. Guy signs here long term and you trade him after a year. Great signal you are sending here to UFAs. This market is not very popular. Yeah, let's make it even worse.

Unless you're Andrew Shaw and you find out you don't like the market, players sign long term contracts for the stability in choosing a place to establish themselves and their family long term. It sends a very bad message to the players if you ship him out after a year.

 

[26Mats]

He won't be traded, unless he asks for it. Guy signs here long term and you trade him after a year. Great signal you are sending here to UFAs. This market is not very popular. Yeah, let's make it even worse.

Unless you're Andrew Shaw and you find out you don't like the market, players sign long term contracts for the stability in choosing a place to establish themselves and their family long term. It sends a very bad message to the players if you ship him out after a year.

Or, do you just believe he'll turn it around?

It's a business. If it's not a fit, it's not a fit. I doubt he's getting moved. So hopefully, Anderson has more to him than he's shown.

 

[DAChampion]

Drouin's value is Nolan Patrick. That's it, that's all.

And that's what will happen this offseason.

What happened to Nolan Patrick? Did he go blind?

 

[1000eeer]

Going after Dadonov with draft picks and prospects wouldn't be a terrible idea IMO. He's a lefty so I would play him on the left wing.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Drouin's value is Nolan Patrick. That's it, that's all.

And that's what will happen this offseason.

I'd make that trade but think Philly won't just due to cap issues. Sorry but cap rears its ugly face again.

 

[Captain Mountain]

He won't be traded, unless he asks for it. Guy signs here long term and you trade him after a year. Great signal you are sending here to UFAs. This market is not very popular. Yeah, let's make it even worse.

Unless you're Andrew Shaw and you find out you don't like the market, players sign long term contracts for the stability in choosing a place to establish themselves and their family long term. It sends a very bad message to the players if you ship him out after a year.

Anderson was an RFA and wanted a long term contract period. It was UFA or max for him in Columbus too.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

he's good but we have too many of these guys

To be fair, it's been working for us. I think if we could get Hyman on a Toffoli-esque deal, we take that unless Hall or Landeskog are an option.

 

[le_sean]

To be fair, it's been working for us. I think if we could get Hyman on a Toffoli-esque deal, we take that unless Hall or Landeskog are an option.

If the Habs could get Hyman on that type of deal he’d already be signing with his boyhood Leafs.

I’d rather Saad anyways. He’s actually won something and he’s a leftie.

 

[smirob]

Would you guys go after OEL if the following happens:

- We lost Chairot to SEA
- They take Drouin in the deal.

Capwise it's a wash (if we lose both), but OEL's cap hit is large and for a while

 

[HuGo Sham]

it's going to be a huge offseason for Bergevin. If he believes the team is close to being a regular playoff team.
1) needs to keep Allen at all cost to let Price rest
2) needs to find another Dman who can contribute offensively on a regular basis
3) needs to figure out LW situation with Drouin and Tatar most likely gone
4) Needs to resign Danault

 

[HuGo Sham]

Would you guys go after OEL if the following happens:

- We lost Chairot to SEA
- They take Drouin in the deal.

Capwise it's a wash (if we lose both), but OEL's cap hit is large and for a while

no way. Way too much for a declining D. that contract is awful and much longer than the two you mentioned.
you also failed to mention cap-wise it's a wash for one year

 

[Habs10Habs]

KK and Drouin for Girard and Kadri?

(I don’t like Kadri but it would be entertaining to see him play in a Habs jersey against the Leafs)

I would do this trade in a heart beat. I'd be sad to see KK go, but adding Girard would help ease the pain. Kadri grew up being a Habs fan. I love his toughness and the fact that he has a couple of screws loose. Getting to see him against the Leafs would be an added bonus.

 

[Archijerej]

Would you guys go after OEL if the following happens:

- We lost Chairot to SEA
- They take Drouin in the deal.

Capwise it's a wash (if we lose both), but OEL's cap hit is large and for a while

No, I wouldn't take on OEL's contract. I'd split the available cap space (assuming Chiarot and Drouin are gone) between two players: a defenceman and a winger.

 

[canucklover123]

What happened to Nolan Patrick? Did he go blind?

Had concussion like issues and was diagnosed with a migraine disorder that kept him out forever. Really tough to see.

I personally wouldnt touch him now

 

[Vachon23]

Bring Matthew Tkachuk to have the Tkachuk bro’s rivalry

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Had concussion like issues and was diagnosed with a migraine disorder that kept him out forever. Really tough to see.

I personally wouldnt touch him now

...as opposed to Drouin's Heart & Arse Disease (by which I mean his play, not any Mental Health issues right now), I'd take Patrick in a millisecond if Philly offered him...

 

[SpezNc2]

Or, do you just believe he'll turn it around?

It's a business. If it's not a fit, it's not a fit. I doubt he's getting moved. So hopefully, Anderson has more to him than he's shown.

Anderson has been very good.

reality is that he is a 20 goals / 80 games. There will be games where he scored two, there will stretch where he is goalless.

Anderson stays.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Drouin's value is Nolan Patrick. That's it, that's all.

And that's what will happen this offseason.

Enough for me. I mentioned it a while back in this thread.

 

[26Mats]

Anderson has been very good.

reality is that he is a 20 goals / 80 games. There will be games where he scored two, there will stretch where he is goalless.

Anderson stays.

Well we'll see about that. I'm not convinced his 27 goal season and fast start this year weren't aberrations and that his anemic production last year and since his fast start this year aren't the norm.