Thanks, I was going to post pretty much exactly the same thing.
And what does "Ryan" mean for Voracek? An actor playing Ryan? A life-sized action figure?
I think this is what he means. Lavy's replacement.
Thanks, I was going to post pretty much exactly the same thing.
And what does "Ryan" mean for Voracek? An actor playing Ryan? A life-sized action figure?
I think this is what he means. Lavy's replacement.
Who is going to give up anything for knuble or fedotenko when they both suck?
If the tests come back today that Simmer has a concussion, we could be in real trouble. I would hope that Homer doesn't do what we all fear and over pay for a forward. This team is struggling mightily, we might need to sit back and see what we have as a team.
I agree Kimmo and Briere would fetch a nice return at the deadline, especially Kimmo. Now Talbot is a good character guy to keep around for the youth of this team, just like Hartnell. Simmer stays and so does the youth(Couts, Schenn, Schenn, and Read) The only youthful player I would make a deal(if it was the right one) is Voracek. I still like Voracek's potential though. He could be a 60 point 2nd liner in this league, so we might want to hold onto him.
Knuble will get you futures....... if you're lucky. Feds might be one of those character guys people are looking for at the deadline(has won 2 cups IIRC). He might be able to fetch you a 3rd rounder, and maybe if you're lucky a 2nd. Some teams value leadership and experience around the deadline.
Coburn is staying, Grossmannnnnn is staying, Luke is staying. Mayer Gervais could be swung for something, but again it would be minor. Foster is a waste lol. Mez, if we think we will not be able to resign him in the future, might be able to fetch a first from a desperate team at the deadline. He just has to prove he is healthy, which might be hard.
Summary:
Kimmo=largest return (1st rounder, top prospect, 3/4 rounder)
Briere=Good return (1st rounder, maybe top prospect)
Feds=okay return (3rd rounder, maybe a 2nd rounder for a desperate team)
Knuble=scrub
Mez=wildcard( could fetch something good if a team is desperate and he proves he is healthy)
Gervais=maybe(maybe a middle pick...)
id want to get a top tier prospect for timonen. briere i wouldnt trade unless its an overwhelming offer. if this year does go to the dogs you want to retain at least some veteran leadership to help these guys along and briere has shown a willingness to do that before.
I don't believe Kimo will return that much. He would very likely be a rental and he really has shown his age. Combine that with a crueling tight schedule I don't see him returning a 1st round draft pick and certainly not a top prospect. At this point a contending team would look at him as a third-pairing guy who can play up the line-up if need be, but not as a pivotal guy.
Same could be said about Briere.
Feds won't net more than a 4th.
This is why I keep Briere. Plus I think his offense is still helpful.
Briere has more of an excuse than some other guys. He didn't even get the short training camp.
He's a veteran who is supposedly a premier scorer. Yet he's got one assist and still sucks as much balls as he always has defensively.
Couturier isn't playing great but he's far more useful than Briere.
Briere sure doesn't score much for a premier scoring forward making 6.5 against the cap
you are crazy. Timonen can postionally play with anybody still. He blocks a ton of shots. Hes lost a step with speed, sure. Hes also as good as it gets as a qb on the pp.I don't believe Kimo will return that much. He would very likely be a rental and he really has shown his age. Combine that with a crueling tight schedule I don't see him returning a 1st round draft pick and certainly not a top prospect. At this point a contending team would look at him as a third-pairing guy who can play up the line-up if need be, but not as a pivotal guy.
Same could be said about Briere.
Feds won't net more than a 4th.
briere scores in the postseason, you cant dispute that.He's a veteran who is supposedly a premier scorer. Yet he's got one assist and still sucks as much balls as he always has defensively.
Couturier isn't playing great but he's far more useful than Briere.
Briere sure doesn't score much for a premier scoring forward making 6.5 against the cap
Yep.Under almost no circumstances would I trade Coburn.
He's great every year in the playoffs.
Tradable for me would be Timonen, Briere, Fedotenko, and Knuble.
Doubt we get much for the last 2
If you think you can improve your team by a significant gap, then and only then should you willingly move a player. If said player request a trade because their heart isn't in it (Lindros), if it looks like the player isn't going to be able to re-signed or shouldn't be re-signed for any number of reasons (Gagne, Umberger, etc.) or the player's attitude is complete **** and toxic for the team to be around (York, Calder), then the GM's hand is forced into making a move. I'm far more inclined to make a move for a pick under the latter categories because a wild-card return is more than nothing, which is what you would otherwise have.if read is putting up good numbers by the time the deadline is near he will be very attractive. cheap, productive. and has one more year at that price tag. He could haul in quite a bit.
He had weeks of hockey in Europe to help prepare.Briere has more of an excuse than some other guys. He didn't even get the short training camp.
If the Ducks re-sign Getzlaf and Perry, we can probably pick up Ryan through free agency or a trade which doesn't require Anaheim to take on too much salary. The key is to see how this off-season plays out.I was opening this kind of thread too.
Its very deep draft coming, why not do a push there?
We need defender and goalscorer too but with these pucks we are not get that this deadline.
How about this:
Briere - 1st
Voracek - "Ryan"
Fedotenko - 2-3 rounder
Talbot - 1-2 rounder
Timonen - 1st ( If going to play next year it is only rental)
Knuble - 2-3 rounder
If we could have like three first rounders aprox in 5-15 picks we could do some big choices for our future.
He had weeks of hockey in Europe to help prepare.
He's a veteran who is supposedly a premier scorer. Yet he's got one assist and still sucks as much balls as he always has defensively.
Couturier isn't playing great but he's far more useful than Briere.
Briere sure doesn't score much for a premier scoring forward making 6.5 against the cap
I don't know why everyone is so quick to offer Briere for trade, it's ridiculous. The guy was injured and missed the short training camp. I'd trade Wayne Simmonds, he doesn't belong on the first line and I believe he was the reason the PP was in a slump. I don't think it's a coincidence the PP went 3/3 last night with him missing. I thought Tye McGinn did a fantastic job in his spot and I would keep him there when Simmonds returns. Don't get me wrong I think Simmonds works harder than almost everyone else on the ice.
Simmonds doesn't finish. He's great along the boards, tough on the puck but after that, there isn't much there other than a big kid with nice size. I agree, he did very little to stimulate the power play while he was there. But that may have more to do with the team as a whole being completely out of sync and predictable.