Post-Game Talk: Toronto loses to Blues. But we still gangsta.

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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.

The Blues game to me was more equatable to playoff style hockey we should expect. IMO
 
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Not sure which goal it was, but Muzzin out holding some guys stick in the face-off circle while Liljegren is trying to cover two men. Saad's goal, poor decision making by Muzzin.
Muzzin chased his man up the boards and accomplished nothing.
Nice pass by Campbell on the first goal of the game.

Muzzin wasn't great im completly agree but everything started with an individual play missed by liljegren.

If liljegren just dump the puck unstead of trying to make an indivual play, unstead of playing the next 10-20-30-40 second in your zone, maybe its your team who would play 20-30-40 on offensive zone and maybe unstead of being 4-3 for stl, it would be 4-3 for toronto.

Individual play just almost never work on playoff, every playoff team are able to stop those kind of play, So its gonna hurt you more than anything else.
 
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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.

The Blues game to me was more equatable to playoff style hockey we should expect. IMO

Will the Penguins play more like the Penguins in the playoffs or like St. Louis?

What does your post even mean "playoff hockey", every team plays different.
 
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Will the Penguins play more like the Penguins in the playoffs or like St. Louis?

What does your post even mean "playoff hockey", every team plays different.

STL plays a big heavy game, but our Leafs have tons of skill and prefer a more open skating style game where they excel.

Pitts has a lot of skill as well so they might like, much like the Leafs to open things up and let skill on skill determine who wins.

It easier to play a playoff style game during the regular season, and not need to flip a magical switch come playoff time.

A player like Matthews winning the Rocket in the regular season and then 1 goal in 7 playoff games or Marner going from 1.2 PPG in the regular season and then .5 PPG in the playoffs suggest that "playoff style" hockey has an impact on Leafs stars.
 

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Not sure which goal it was, but Muzzin out holding some guys stick in the face-off circle while Liljegren is trying to cover two men. Saad's goal, poor decision making by Muzzin.
Muzzin chased his man up the boards and accomplished nothing.
Nice pass by Campbell on the first goal of the game.

On Saad's go ahead goal, I'm having a hard time understanding why Muzzin was playing zone defense on O'Reilly, chasing him behind the net and half way up the left sidewall where he wasn't going to do anything, or how Tavares manages to make a complete non play along the wall to seal up the pass to Parayko. But to be fair to Muzzin there was a lot of fire drill stuff going on, like the Brodie Rielly breakdown on the third goal when the Leafs had back pressure, guys in the slot and they all just puck watched for a few seconds.
 

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I love to crap on Keefe and list night is a good reason why. He is a rinse wash repeat coach. You have a goalie who is struggling, he plays insane out of his mind 50+saves, one might say he was over worked in that game and then you play him right away. Give Soupy a chance to rest and keep those positive vibes, play your $3.8 mil goalie on Saturday night, give Jack the Habs "tanking for last place" game ... nope lets put Jack right back in, just in time to shred any good vibes he got from the previous game.... BRAVO Minor Leaguer Keefe...
 
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On Saad's go ahead goal, I'm having a hard time understanding why Muzzin was playing zone defense on O'Reilly, chasing him behind the net and half way up the left sidewall where he wasn't going to do anything, or how Tavares manages to make a complete non play along the wall to seal up the pass to Parayko. But to be fair to Muzzin there was a lot of fire drill stuff going on, like the Brodie Rielly breakdown on the third goal when the Leafs had back pressure, guys in the slot and they all just puck watched for a few seconds.

Horrid goal, horrid play, we got 5 defenders and no one is covering the two point shots or the far side slot attacker ... how can 3 opponents be open when you have 5 defenders?
 

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STL plays a big heavy game, but our Leafs have tons of skill and prefer a more open skating style game where they excel.

Pitts has a lot of skill as well so they might like, much like the Leafs to open things up and let skill on skill determine who wins.

It easier to play a playoff style game during the regular season, and not need to flip a magical switch come playoff time.

A player like Matthews winning the Rocket in the regular season and then 1 goal in 7 playoff games or Marner going from 1.2 PPG in the regular season and then .5 PPG in the playoffs suggest that "playoff style" hockey has an impact on Leafs stars.

what is the Penguins playoff style?

are they going to automatically turn into a heavy grinding team come playoffs?

why don't they shut down our stars in the regular season?

do they like losing?

Do you think Matthews' 3% shooting average last series will continue?

why do you keep saying playoff style hockey like every team plays the same game?
 

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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.

The Blues game to me was more equatable to playoff style hockey we should expect. IMO

There really isn't any factual basis for this. You're basing this off of another version of the Blues.

They're middle of the pack for shots against, and given up the 5th most high danger chances in the league, and rank in the bottom 10 in xGA

Their redeeming qualities is their top 5 PK and second ranked PP, next to the Leafs. Actually, they're a lot like the Leafs except worse defensively and similar offensively. This one game doesn't really change much.
 

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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.

The Blues game to me was more equatable to playoff style hockey we should expect. IMO

Didn't think the Blues played that well at all to be honest. 2 blown leads, lots of gaps, not exactly free wheeling but not tight. Goaltending shut the door when it mattered, but was still beatable. Opportunistic when it mattered though with the game tied in the 3rd. Perron and O'Reilly have that savvy veteran presence. Could really use that from Tavares.
 

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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.

The Blues game to me was more equatable to playoff style hockey we should expect. IMO
What style of game was St Louis playing when they lost to Montreal?
 

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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.

The Blues game to me was more equatable to playoff style hockey we should expect. IMO
Did you watch the game?
 
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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.

The Blues game to me was more equatable to playoff style hockey we should expect. IMO


The blues are a rush team and beat us on the rush for most of their goals this game.
 
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This was point about the difference in style of games between Pens wide open end to end rushes and STL game tighter checking low shots and chances and more physical and less free wheeling.
Pittsburgh has been a better shot and chance suppression team this year than St Louis, and the majority of St Louis' goals were off the rush.
A player like Matthews winning the Rocket in the regular season and then 1 goal in 7 playoff games or Marner going from 1.2 PPG in the regular season and then .5 PPG in the playoffs suggest that "playoff style" hockey has an impact on Leafs stars.
Except whatever you think "playoff style hockey" is is not what led to lesser raw production from Matthews/Marner last year. And using your logic, we'd conclude that Leaf star Nylander excels in "playoff style" hockey anyway, right? Why no mention of that?

Both Matthews and Marner have gone PPG+ in playoff series before (and Matthews has posted 4 goals in 6 and 5 goals in 7 before, when not nursing a surgery-requiring wrist injury), despite facing some of the biggest, toughest, dirtiest, and best defensive teams possible, and some of the best goaltending possible, throughout their career. Also, Marner has never posted "0.5 PPG in the playoffs".
 
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4th goal was liljegren fault with an indivial play on neutral zone with perron just stole him easyly the puck and created a kind of chaos defensivly for toronto.
All 5 guys were back by the time Blues setup. I don't buy this.
 

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Johnny Bower just sang a chorus of Honky the Christmas Goose. Thank goodness it was not gangsta.
 

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All 5 guys were back by the time Blues setup. I don't buy this.

If he didnt made his individual play, toronto, he just had to dump the puck but unstead but unstead he tried to skate accross perron an lost the lost and 2 min before he tried to skate across oreilly and lost the puck again.

So unstead of playing those 2 shift on offensive zone during 20-30-40-50-.... they had to defend all that time.

During playoff you win or you loose on that kind of small details.
 
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