The Red Line
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Terrible for Detroit, but I'll admit I've never heard of this 2nd round pick guy.
Proposal: Toronto - Detroit
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FissionFire
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Unfortunately this trade fits Detroit’s needs very poorly. Defense is their weak link and Hronek appears to be a legitimate 3/4 floor with a #2 upside who can pointman a PP on either the 1st or 2nd unit. He and Cholowski are the guys who the team will rebuild the defense around in all likelihood.
Detroit has too many wingers already so Kapanen, while an excellent player, doesn’t really offer a giant improvement. Next season you are looking at Mantha, Bertuzzi, Athanasiou as young wingers on the team. Then you have Svechnikov (was on the team before blowing out his knee) and Zadina at the very least knocking on the door for next year. Throw in Rasmussen, who may play wing next year still, and that’s a heck of a lot of youth and high draft capital in the winger spot. Kapanen would be a luxury, not really a need.
Detroit has too many wingers already so Kapanen, while an excellent player, doesn’t really offer a giant improvement. Next season you are looking at Mantha, Bertuzzi, Athanasiou as young wingers on the team. Then you have Svechnikov (was on the team before blowing out his knee) and Zadina at the very least knocking on the door for next year. Throw in Rasmussen, who may play wing next year still, and that’s a heck of a lot of youth and high draft capital in the winger spot. Kapanen would be a luxury, not really a need.
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As has been said already, the deal makes little sense for Detroit.
Hronek and Cholowski are probably the two most promising D prospects they've had in something like 15 years and that's a position of need. They're also loaded at wing, so they don't really need a top wing prospect if it's at the expense of a top D prospect.
Kapanen or the 2nd by themselves for Glendening makes more sense.
Hronek and Cholowski are probably the two most promising D prospects they've had in something like 15 years and that's a position of need. They're also loaded at wing, so they don't really need a top wing prospect if it's at the expense of a top D prospect.
Kapanen or the 2nd by themselves for Glendening makes more sense.
I know little about the Detroit players involved but three things about Kappy. First off, I believe the leafs have stated that Kappy isn't in their trade plans. Second, if he were to be, the only return would be a guarenteed top 4 Dman. The third thing is I believe that the Leafs think that Kappy is a dangerous enough player to want to trade out of the division and maybe even conference. I know I wouldn't want to play him 4x a year and then add playoffs into the mix.
Actually surprised Glendenning hasn’t been traded to Toronto yet. Before Hyman it was Luke Glendenning who received Babcocks unconditional love.
Based on precedent, I think the Leafs trade their second for him at the deadline. The rest of this trade doesn’t make sense for either team.
Based on precedent, I think the Leafs trade their second for him at the deadline. The rest of this trade doesn’t make sense for either team.
Agree with all but the last part. Kapanen holds significantly more value IMO. A 2nd would be a very good return for Luke Glendenning whose realistically a 4th liner, albeit a very good one.
Mantha and a 2nd for Kapanen and a 2nd? Not sure what the point would be? I’d rather just keep Mantha and not downgrade on the pick
Sorry, I mean would you trade Mantha and 2nd for Hronek+Glendenning equivalents
I wouldn’t trade Hronek for Mantha. If you want comparisons, FWIW, I wouldn’t trade Hronek for Dermott. Hronek has significantly outproduced Dermott at every level and is a year younger.
I like Kapanen quite a bit. Would love him next to Larkin. They would do great on the forecheck together.
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What?
Kasperi Kappanen
2nd '19
Filip Hronek
Luke Glendening
Thoughts?
No, of course not.
Can you offer any explanation as to why either team does it?
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Not any better for Detroit either, We've ton of Wingers and need D Hronek should at least be a 3rd/4th RHD no thanks unless Liljegren is coming back in the deal.
I hope you kidding, not happening from leafs, kappanen not going anywhere
Kasperi Kappanen
2nd '19
Filip Hronek
Luke Glendening
Thoughts?
Kasperi Kappanen
2nd '19
I think if Kappenen gets traded its to the Hurricanes for a top end defenseman. Hronek and Cholowski are benchmarks for Detroits back end for the future. I could see maybe Dekeyser being traded or maybe Jensen??
Filip Hronek
Luke Glendening
Thoughts?
No to Hronek...
Jensen and Glendening for 1st rd pick. I see Kappenen getting traded to Hurricanes for a top D-man.
Jensen and Glendening for 1st rd pick. I see Kappenen getting traded to Hurricanes for a top D-man.
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Win it for Ed
Detroit adds a middle 6 winger, which they have a surplus of, and gives up one of their talented young D-men, which they lack.
BRILLIANT!
Don't be so selfish, this thread is about helping the Leafs
. Now give them another piece.
WingsMJN2965
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Even if they're on a similar path, this is more about needs vs. surplus.
Detroit needs D and has a surplus of good young wingers. Giving up Hronek for Kapanen makes no sense.
Petes2424
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The two players in Detroit who could be moved and I’d jump at the opportunity to acquire would be Glendening and Trevor Daley. Would prefer Green but looks like he’s locked in to stay in Detroit by his own choice.
Daley for a first and 3rd. The D market is thin and Daley’s experience and ability transitionally can eat up some good minutes. Also relieves some pressure to resign Gardner.
Glendening for a Adam Brooks type and a later pick. Maybe if Detroit is interested I’d even part with Ian Scott.
Adding two very good depth players for the run this spring without giving up a ton. That first is 25th or later probably. They can afford it for Daley at another year as Sandin and TL develop.
Daley for a first and 3rd. The D market is thin and Daley’s experience and ability transitionally can eat up some good minutes. Also relieves some pressure to resign Gardner.
Glendening for a Adam Brooks type and a later pick. Maybe if Detroit is interested I’d even part with Ian Scott.
Adding two very good depth players for the run this spring without giving up a ton. That first is 25th or later probably. They can afford it for Daley at another year as Sandin and TL develop.
Nobody in their right mind is moving a 1st round pick for Daley
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