Player Discussion Torey Krug III

[Bruinswillwin77]

Panarin is a hot commodity, and rightfully so. He would make this offense the best in the East. While Krug won't be easily replaced, there are ample LHDs on the roster or ready to graduate, that the upgrade on RW justifies it. Same with Heinen. Old adage, gotta give to get.

As much as I hate te Leafs, I'd say they're offense is the best, rivaled by Pittsburgh

 

[BruinDust]

I disagree with your analysis

Panarin is a stud and one of the scariest offensive players in the league today

You trade Krug + Heinen (plus extra) for Panarin yesterday (as long as he is open to resign)

You can believe he's a "stud" all you want.

If the ice time he's used to isn't available, and the opportunity on special teams isn't as available, his production is likely to go down.

Most GMs will take the 60 pt D-man over the 70 pt (with the expected drop off in production) winger every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

[easton117]

You can believe he's a "stud" all you want.

If the ice time he's used to isn't available, and the opportunity on special teams isn't as available, his production is likely to go down.

Most GMs will take the 60 pt D-man over the 70 pt (with the expected drop off in production) winger every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Boston is in kind of a funny spot though. After the first line, they really don’t have a guy that can carry a line on his own.

Krejci isn’t that guy anymore. I like the guy. But if he breaks 50 points this year with the wingers he has I’d be ecstatic.

Panarin is that guy. Not saying he’s the be all end all but he would instantly be Boston’s top 2 or 3 winger. I think you’d have to consider moving Krug for that no?

Or put it this way. Would you trade Mike Green for Panarin? Because Krug is basically the exact same player.

 

[Gordoff]

Question: Has Panarin ever played center?
Sorry, not trying to take this in a different direction than what it's supposed to be about
which is Torey Krug but it seems that the consensus here is that if they trade him it'll be in a
package for Panarin. From what I've gathered there not necessarily in the market for a d-man,
not even one of Torey's skill-set?

 

[Pia8988]

No. He doesn't even play RW. He is a LW.

 

[Ratty]

No. He doesn't even play RW. He is a LW.

But he is a right shot. No doubt the Bruins are looking at him as Krejci's starboard sider.

 

[Pia8988]

Yes, but he is Russian. It's a lot more common for them to play their off wings. I wouldn't trade for him to be a RW.

 

[Ratty]

Yes, but he is Russian. It's a lot more common for them to play their off wings. I wouldn't trade for him to be a RW.

Still young enough to shake old habits. RW is more a position of need on this roster. Besides, he can easily slide to LW after entering the offensive zone. He's that good a talent.

 

[Pia8988]

Ask Pittsburgh how it went when they moved Iginla to LW.

 

[Ratty]

Ask Pittsburgh how it went when they moved Iginla to LW.

Ask him how old he was when they asked him to move.

 

[Pia8988]

Ask him how old he was when they asked him to move.

Panarin isn't some junior player or rookie. He isn't old, but to trade a massive package and then play a guy out of position and hope it works. That's how you get yourself fired.

 

[BruinDust]

Still young enough to shake old habits. RW is more a position of need on this roster. Besides, he can easily slide to LW after entering the offensive zone. He's that good a talent.

Has nothing to do with old habits. Your not taught how to play one side or the other, either your wired to be comfortable on one side or the other or both. Depends 100% on the individual player. Some guys can switch sides easily, some can’t shift at all. Not a chance would i acquire an expensive player expecting him to immediately shift sides, even if it was back to his natural side.

In the offensive zone it really doesn’t matter.

Its the other two zones where you see the impact of guys unable to handle the side the feel most comfortable on.

 

[BruinDust]

Boston is in kind of a funny spot though. After the first line, they really don’t have a guy that can carry a line on his own.

Krejci isn’t that guy anymore. I like the guy. But if he breaks 50 points this year with the wingers he has I’d be ecstatic.

Panarin is that guy. Not saying he’s the be all end all but he would instantly be Boston’s top 2 or 3 winger. I think you’d have to consider moving Krug for that no?

Or put it this way. Would you trade Mike Green for Panarin? Because Krug is basically the exact same player.

Which Mike Green?

Because I wouldn’t trade Green in his prime for Panarin.

 

[Ratty]

Has nothing to do with old habits. Your not taught how to play one side or the other, either your wired to be comfortable on one side or the other or both. Depends 100% on the individual player. Some guys can switch sides easily, some can’t shift at all. Not a chance would i acquire an expensive player expecting him to immediately shift sides, even if it was back to his natural side.

In the offensive zone it really doesn’t matter.

Its the other two zones where you see the impact of guys unable to handle the side the feel most comfortable on.

If the're anywhere close to a trade with Columbus I have no doubt Sweeney and his staff have already explored any psychological impact asking Panarin to move to his natural position would be.

 

[UncleRico]

You can believe he's a "stud" all you want.

If the ice time he's used to isn't available, and the opportunity on special teams isn't as available, his production is likely to go down.

Most GMs will take the 60 pt D-man over the 70 pt (with the expected drop off in production) winger every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

If you give mcavoy the offensive opportunities and PP1 he could probably get to 40-45 points and increase year by year from there, then let gryz get PP2 increasing his points. While letting Moore get krugs 5v5 while being a more efficient 5v5 defender. All while panarin elevates the play of krejci and debrusk rather than having a black hole at 2nd line RW

 

[NDiesel]

Panarin isn't some junior player or rookie. He isn't old, but to trade a massive package and then play a guy out of position and hope it works. That's how you get yourself fired.

Easy fix, move Debrusk to RW, keep Panarin on the LW.

 

[BruinDust]

Easy fix, move Debrusk to RW, keep Panarin on the LW.

They tried Debrusk on RW last year in November-ish. It didn't last very long.

 

[Dr Hook]

Put Panarin with Krejci and Pasta, and put Bjork with Marchand Bergeron, move JDB to 3rd line with Heinen and Backes. That's three good looking lines right there, and solves the 3c problem because Heinen can do it

 

[Flannelman]

That's three good looking lines right there, and solves the 3c problem because Heinen can do it

That’s the most intriguing piece of the puzzle to me right there.
Who on the board watched a lot of Jim Montgomery’s Heinen at C?
I’d be damn curious to see this at Training camp

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Put Panarin with Krejci and Pasta, and put Bjork with Marchand Bergeron, move JDB to 3rd line with Heinen and Backes. That's three good looking lines right there, and solves the 3c problem because Heinen can do it

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Bjork
Panarin -- Krejci -- Pastrnak
DeBrusk -- Heinen -- Backes

I assume one of Donato/Bjork/Heinen would have to go in any deal for Panarin. And obviously more. It's a great looking lineup. Panarin as a UFA next season is frightening if he comes here, and leaves. You give up a lot for 1 season.

 

[Dr Hook]

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Bjork
Panarin -- Krejci -- Pastrnak
DeBrusk -- Heinen -- Backes

I assume one of Donato/Bjork/Heinen would have to go in any deal for Panarin. And obviously more. It's a great looking lineup. Panarin as a UFA next season is frightening if he comes here, and leaves. You give up a lot for 1 season.

Well, it's off-season and time for speculating and dreaming. Panarin would be expensive, no doubt, and I wouldn't do it unless it was a sign and trade. It would take a lot to get him too, probably one of our young forwards, a good d- man, and a pick? If we send a young forward away as part of that, it needs to not be someone that can play RW unless we are convinced Panarin can play there. But since this is the Krug thread, he would be the d man we send.

 

[Dr Hook]

That’s the most intriguing piece of the puzzle to me right there.
Who on the board watched a lot of Jim Montgomery’s Heinen at C?
I’d be damn curious to see this at Training camp

Same- a couple of people here swear he can do it but I watched probably one DU game on TV when Heinen was there and don't remember anything about him

 

[rocketdan9]

Krug scored 40 and was a plus 18 whe he broke in on the 3rd pair,

And he scored almost 60 points last season and was a plus what?

he was even...in the plus and minus

can you explain?

Krug was also a huge liability on the defensive end in the playoffs. It was the "momentum swing" factor ....when those 1st goals or quick goals given up after scoring....that had the Bruins on their heels for the meat stretch vs the Leafs and after 1st game vs lightening

you can't play confidently nor win in the playoffs like that

 

[Mainehockey33]

And he scored almost 60 points last season and was a plus what?

he was even...in the plus and minus

can you explain?

Krug was also a huge liability on the defensive end in the playoffs. It was the "momentum swing" factor that had the Bruins on their heals for the meat stretch vs the Leafs and after 1st game vs lightening

Carlo is the big X factor with Krug. He seems to help Krug out a lot defensively which was evident in the regular season. If he can stay healthy for the playoffs, I don’t think Krug will be as exposed.

 

[Chief Nine]

Carlo is the big X factor with Krug. He seems to help Krug out a lot defensively which was evident in the regular season. If he can stay healthy for the playoffs, I don’t think Krug will be as exposed.

Thank you! Carlo-Krug was a huge missing piece in the playoffs