LeBrun: TOR STILL! scouting Canes...will it ever end...looking at an RD or Ferland...

[spockBokk]

More stalking of Canes D and/or Ferland:



(And yes, I realize CAR has certainly done their fair share of stalking of TOR as well...)

My guess would be they’re looking hard at Ferland and TVR. Those guys could be had for futures or maybe Connor Brown plus pick(s). I doubt Dubas has the stomach or stones to pay in roster Forwards what CAR would want for Hamilton or Pesce.

And, No, dumping Zaitsev on CAR is not feasible.

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[Trxjw]

This is all going to come to a head with a simple Hamilton for Nylander deal or something like that. Too much nonsense and time for it to end up as a complicated trade.

 

[93LEAFS]

Maybe they are just trying to figure out why Carolina is such a good analytics team, but can't finish for research. It's probably one of the biggest questions among "stats-geeks" in hockey right now.

 

[Liferleafer]

Lol...this is a blatant troll job on both fanbases!! Dam you Dubas!!

 

[Lunatik]

Ferland and Hamilton for Nylander, a 1st and a prospect

 

[justafan22]

TVR for Brown

 

[Canada4Gold]

Pesce!

Please?

 

[Dog]

Pesce or go home. Hamilton not worth paying for.

 

[Liferleafer]

Pesce!

Please?

Would need to move Zaitsev....

 

[Magic Man]

AJ+ for Pesce.

Let's do it.

 

[spockBokk]

TVR for Brown

I think I’d actually do that one. Each close to the same cap hit, though TVR’s is a bit higher, and both signed for 1 more year.

CAR kinda clears a spot for Fox and gets a right shot F who has scored 20g once for their bottom 6. TOR gets a decent 3rd pair RD who doesn’t look out of place on higher. pairings

 

[spockBokk]

AJ+ for Pesce.

Let's do it.

Not happening.

TOR can’t afford the cap hit, reasonable as it is,, and Johnsson just isn’t a good enough centerpiece for Pesce.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

And, No, dumping Zaitsev on CAR is not feasible.

This needs to be reiterated. Carolina is not wealthy enough to spend $4.5 mil on a 3rd pairing defenseman as the team's young forwards move to their next contracts. In addition, the Canes will attempt to sign Fox and McKeown is getting to waiver age. There may not be a worse fit throughout the league.

 

[Liferleafer]

AJ+ for Pesce.

Let's do it.

Canes pass...quickly.

 

[Liferleafer]

This needs to be reiterated. Carolina is not wealthy enough to spend $4.5 mil on a 3rd pairing defenseman as the team's young forwards move to their next contracts. In addition, the Canes will attempt to sign Fox and McKeown is getting to waiver age. There may not be a worse fit throughout the league.

Well that's obvious...the Canes are trying to move a D....they won't take one back.

 

[TheDoldrums]

This needs to be reiterated. Carolina is not wealthy enough to spend $4.5 mil on a 3rd pairing defenseman as the team's young forwards move to their next contracts. In addition, the Canes will attempt to sign Fox and McKeown is getting to waiver age. There may not be a worse fit throughout the league.

Well Toronto has cap issues and values puck movers above everything, so it's tough to beat his current team.

 

[spockBokk]

Well that's obvious...the Canes are trying to move a D....they won't take one back.

You’d think it’d be obvious, but some folks can’t seem to grasp the concept

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Well that's obvious...the Canes are trying to move a D....they won't take one back.

I've been lurking on the Leafs board.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Do it Dubas!!!.. Still a piece or 2 away being a legit top contender this season!

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Maybe they are just trying to figure out why Carolina is such a good analytics team, but can't finish for research. It's probably one of the biggest questions among "stats-geeks" in hockey right now.

It’s pretty simple.

The quality of their chances is vastly overstated by metrics that don’t take into account things like pre-shot lateral movement, shot angle to goaltender position, etc. that aren’t currently tracked in any fashion.

The inverse of this is true with regards to the quality of the chances they allow and the inverse of both statements is true of the Washington Capitals and the New York Islanders.

They also do just have poor shooters and goaltenders.

 

[Liferleafer]

I've been lurking on the Leafs board.

Oh it's no secret we want to move Zaitsev's cap, but Carolina is about the last team that would consider it.

 

[BB88]

AJ+ for Pesce.

Let's do it.

Makes sense.

 

[Jerkob Slavin]

Maybe they are just trying to figure out why Carolina is such a good analytics team, but can't finish for research. It's probably one of the biggest questions among "stats-geeks" in hockey right now.

Don’t look now, but Carolina is putting A LOT of pucks in the net these days... about 4G/game in 2019 (16 games).

 

[Morbo]

More stalking of Canes D and/or Ferland:



(And yes, I realize CAR has certainly done their fair share of stalking of TOR as well...)

My guess would be they’re looking hard at Ferland and TVR. Those guys could be had for futures or maybe Connor Brown plus pick(s). I doubt Dubas has the stomach or stones to pay in roster Forwards what CAR would want for Hamilton or Pesce.

And, No, dumping Zaitsev on CAR is not feasible.

It's got nothing to do with stomach or stones.

Dubas got a better deal on a defenceman elsewhere. that's it.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

I still have a weird feeling they are pushing for Kadri.... maybe a 3rd team to take Gardiner ?


Tor
Pesce
Ferland

Car
Kadri
Cond pick (tor)
Prospect and/or Pick (team C)

Team C
Gardiner


Ferland - Matthews - Kapanen
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Nylander - Johnsson
Brown - Lindholm - Ennis

Muzzin - Rielly
Dermott - Pesce
Hainsey - Zaitsev