Proposal: TOR-NSH Kadri for Ellis plus deck chairs

[BigFatCat999]

The basis of the trade is:

Kadri for Ellis

But as a Nashville fan I want also

Bonino for Zaitsev


It becomes Center for RHD, Center for RHD. Preds eat more Cap BUT Ellis has one year vs. Kadri's 4.

The chump change I hope is a trade of one of Nashville's 4th for Toronto's 2nd. Only because Zaitsev's contract is a handful.

Final deal:

Kadri, Zaitsev, Tor's 2nd for Bonino, Ellis, NSH or COL 4th

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[TMLeafs17]

Not convinced Toronto is getting a clear upgrade on D when they’re taking a clear loss at 3C.

 

[MLSE]

Not convinced Toronto is getting a clear upgrade on D when they’re taking a clear loss at 3C.

Ellis is a clear upgrade over Zaitsev

 

[Bazeek]

Not convinced Toronto is getting a clear upgrade on D when they’re taking a clear loss at 3C.

Zaitsev to Ellis isn't a clear upgrade? Or am I misreading this?

 

[jetsforever]

I doubt Toronto does this unless Ellis is signed (and maybe not even then)

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Not convinced Toronto is getting a clear upgrade on D when they’re taking a clear loss at 3C.

Ellis is far better than Zaitsev. I would definitely add to make that swap, although I'm not sure Kadri is the right guy. maybe a 1st + a B prospect

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Not convinced Toronto is getting a clear upgrade on D when they’re taking a clear loss at 3C.

That much couldn't be more clear.

 

[Sherwood71]

Ellis is easily an upgrade and Bonino is a clear downgrade and vice versa for Nashville's side. Isn't Ellis due for a decent raise or am I thinking of someone else? I think its a pretty good trade that seems to balance the offensive and defensive talent on both teams

 

[CDN24]

I don't know what the price would be/ should be. If I am Toronto, Ryan Ellis is the guy I target. He makes this team a legitimate contender.

 

[ManofSteel55]

If Ellis could be had for a Kadri level player, somebody would have scooped him up already.

 

[Drew311]

I do it if Ellis is signed longterm at 6 - 7M.

 

[Yamazaki]

I’d rather keep kadri. Most of us leafs know our defence isn’t in dire need like most on hf boards think. I like Ellis but I’d rather go internally for our defence and have the 3 headed monster

 

[TheDoldrums]

This isn't a good deal for Toronto's long-term salary structure. Kadri's contract is a steal and Ellis is about to get paid. The Leafs have two great contracts right now, Kadri and Rielly. They can't afford to move one of their best values now that they'll be tight against the cap starting next year.

 

[firstemperor]

Leafs say no, Ellis is a good player and all but Kadri is not for sale.

NSH would have been better off entering the ROR sweepstakes since he got sold pretty low.

 

[Drew311]

If Ellis could be had for a Kadri level player, somebody would have scooped him up already.

A Kadri level player is a 30 goal shutdown center. I don't see many teams lining up to give this type of player away unless they have a Matthews/Tavares ahead of him.

 

[CamelToews]

Don’t think think we’re trading from our position of strength at center.
Kadri would have traveled to California to meet with Tavares during the presentations if it wasn’t for his schedule.
Ellis is a great player though

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

If Ellis could be had for a Kadri level player, somebody would have scooped him up already.

you mean a 30 goal/60 point center who can match up against anyone for 4.5 million a year? yeah that's a common player

 

[kanucks25]

Ellis is far better than Zaitsev. I would definitely add to make that swap, although I'm not sure Kadri is the right guy. maybe a 1st + a B prospect

You think a #2 D-man in the middle of his prime is worth a low 1st and a B prospect?

Hypothetically, you think Rielly for STL 1st + Tage Thompson is a fair trade?

Get real.

 

[Drew311]

This isn't a good deal for Toronto's long-term salary structure. Kadri's contract is a steal and Ellis is about to get paid. The Leafs have two great contracts right now, Kadri and Rielly. They can't afford to move one of their best values now that they'll be tight against the cap starting next year.

If Ellis comes in I think Gardiner goes out, as Ellis is the better all around defenseman. Subtract Marleau, Gardiner and Hainsey from the salary structure and you have plenty of room for Ellis.

Plugging in a top pairing RHD and subtracting a center who is third in the Leafs depth chart is a no-brainer. I don't think many Leafs fan know how good Ellis really is. Plus Bonino would be a fine 3C.

 

[bukwas]

Too looking forward to seeing what the 3 headed center monster can accomplish. I honestly would be quite disappointed if that gun were never even test fired.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

You think a #2 D-man in the middle of his prime is worth a low 1st and a B prospect?

Hypothetically, you think Rielly for STL 1st + Tage Thompson is a fair trade?

Get real.

St Louis doesn't have Tage Thompson. And it was Zaitsev+1st+B prospect for a guy due a huge pay increase. Maybe they figure Zaitsev will be a cheaper option who can play the 2nd pair for them

 

[ManofSteel55]

A Kadri level player is a 30 goal shutdown center. I don't see many teams lining up to give this type of player away unless they have a Matthews/Tavares ahead of him.

They probably wouldn't. Unless they have a need for a top pair defenseman who makes under 5 per year, because on any other team, Ellis is a #2 defenseman. I never meant to imply that Kadri wasn't a good piece.

 

[ManofSteel55]

you mean a 30 goal/60 point center who can match up against anyone for 4.5 million a year? yeah that's a common player

Never said he was common did I?

 

[CDN24]

you mean a 30 goal/60 point center who can match up against anyone for 4.5 million a year? yeah that's a common player

I think we mean your 3rd best centre for what would be your number 1 D man. Ellis is better than Rielly IMO. Doesn't have to be Kadri, you could trade Nylander too but I think Kadri may be the one.

Will Kadri get 30 goals with Tavares and Matthews in front of him. he is not going to have as good of wingers as he had the last 2 years.

 

[hamzarocks]

They probably wouldn't. Unless they have a need for a top pair defenseman who makes under 5 per year, because on any other team, Ellis is a #2 defenseman. I never meant to imply that Kadri wasn't a good piece.

They probably wouldn't. Unless they have a need for a top pair defenseman who makes under 5 per year, because on any other team, Ellis is a #2 defenseman. I never meant to imply that Kadri wasn't a good piece.

Ellis makes under 5 mill for a year then is a f/a. How much his salary jumps up to is antibodies guess but kadri is a more secure and arguably the better player(a low end 1st line center vs a high end number 2 defender). Ellis if traded wont bring back a player of Kadris calibre. He will bring back a shattenkirk like package as a rental.