Proposal: (TOR-NJ) Kerby Rychel, Josh Leivo, Rinat Valiev, Tobias Lindberg for Picks

[Duke16]

All of these guys don't have a spot and are waiver eligible or have been surpassed by a few of our better prospects or Euro signings.

With NJ only being at 33 contracts, this could be a way to add cheap young depth. Leivo and Rychel are NHL ready and waiver eligible, Valiev and Lindberg can be assigned to the AHL.

Leafs are at 49 pro contracts and need to sign Brown and Dzierkals and could use the flexibility.

I wouldn't expect a great return for the Leafs, but what would be the pick(s) that they could receive in this type of deal?

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[VoluntaryDom]

Each of these guys are worth a 2nd round pick or so, maybe a bit less for Lindberg.

 

[Cheddabombs]

It was definitely mentioned in that thread that the Devils still have 9 RFA's to sign, plus they just signed Nico. Again... it's July.

 

[RoadWarrior]

All of these guys don't have a spot and are waiver eligible or have been surpassed by a few of our better prospects or Euro signings.

With NJ only being at 33 contracts, this could be a way to add cheap young depth. Leivo and Rychel are NHL ready and waiver eligible, Valiev and Lindberg can be assigned to the AHL.

Leafs are at 49 pro contracts and need to sign Brown and Dzierkals and could use the flexibility.

I wouldn't expect a great return for the Leafs, but what would be the pick(s) that they could receive in this type of deal?

They don't need to sign Dzeirkals. He can play his overage year in the Q.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Each of these guys are worth a 2nd round pick or so, maybe a bit less for Lindberg.

Maybe if you combine them all. They're ok prospects, but when you're waiver eligible you lose value if you haven't made the NHL full time yet.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Maybe if you combine them all. They're ok prospects, but when you're waiver eligible you lose value if you haven't made the NHL full time yet.

Leivo and Rychel are NHL-ready

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Leivo and Rychel are NHL-ready

Both players do not have more than half an NHL season of experience, so you can't say they've made the NHL full time

 

[Doctor No]

Both players do not have more than half an NHL season of experience, so you can't say they've made the NHL full time

Fortunately, that's not what he said.

 

[SenzZen]

Each of these guys are worth a 2nd round pick or so, maybe a bit less for Lindberg.

I think most teams- especially a rebuilding one like NJ- would much rather keep their 2nd round picks than give them to the Leafs just cuz.

But also OP is basing the Devils need on a false premise.

 

[Jyrki Lumme]

I ain't trading Leivo if I'm Toronto's management. Babcock has to figure out he's actually really good and play him first though.

 

[OilTastic]

Each of these guys are worth a 2nd round pick or so, maybe a bit less for Lindberg.

none of these guys are worth anything close to a 2nd round pick !

 

[leafsfan1234]

Each of these guys are worth a 2nd round pick or so, maybe a bit less for Lindberg.

I doubt all of them combined could return a 2nd..

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Fortunately, that's not what he said.

I was reiterating my point because my point was that they have not made the NHL full time, so they lose value when they're waiver eligible.

 

[Doctor No]

I was reiterating my point because my point was that they have not made the NHL full time, so they lose value when they're waiver eligible.

Yes, on this point I agree with you.

 

[Skobel24]

Rychel or Leivo could likely get you a 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Zippy316]

All of these guys don't have a spot and are waiver eligible or have been surpassed by a few of our better prospects or Euro signings.

With NJ only being at 33 contracts, this could be a way to add cheap young depth. Leivo and Rychel are NHL ready and waiver eligible, Valiev and Lindberg can be assigned to the AHL.

Leafs are at 49 pro contracts and need to sign Brown and Dzierkals and could use the flexibility.

I wouldn't expect a great return for the Leafs, but what would be the pick(s) that they could receive in this type of deal?

Devils are going to have a wealth of young forwards pushing on the team next year. I don't think those guys are much better than giving a guy like John Quenneville or Blake Speers a shot to make the team and they're definitely a step down from McLeod, Hischier, and Zacha who all have a chance to make the team. That's not including Wood/Blandisi/Coleman/Pietila that will all be pushing for bottom-six time as well.

As far as Valiev, Devils have several LD in the same boat as him -- Kapla, Dyblenko, Loov, Mueller.

It doesn't make sense for the Devils to give up assets. Better off giving a shot to the guys within and then look to pray on Toronto if we need an extra body when they have to send some guys down. At that point, Devils would have a better idea where the kids are at.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

At this point I doubt the Leafs deal Lindberg or Valiev. Lindberg is pretty much the only skilled big forward the Leafs have on the Marlies next year. Valiev plays RD, and as much as people want Liljegren to take his spot, I doubt that happens right away. Neither requires waivers, and came off of injury riddled seasons. Much more likely Soshnikov gets dealt because even though that criteria describes him as well (injury-plagued season near the end + waiver exempt), Soshnikov at least has proven he can hack it in the NHL, even if it's just in a bottom 6 role as of right now.

The Leafs may deal Rychel and Leivo (and Soshnikov) for picks, but I am still holding out hope that Bozak and JvR are on their way out so that Leivo and Kapanen at the very least can get into the lineup. Rychel and Soshnikov lost their chance to Marleau.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Rychel or Leivo could likely get you a 2nd or 3rd.

If they weren't waiver eligible, maybe. But because they are, I can't see any team giving up a 2nd. I doubt any GM wants to guarantee them a roster spot even if both are clearly ready IMO.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

All of these guys don't have a spot and are waiver eligible or have been surpassed by a few of our better prospects or Euro signings.

With NJ only being at 33 contracts, this could be a way to add cheap young depth. Leivo and Rychel are NHL ready and waiver eligible, Valiev and Lindberg can be assigned to the AHL.

Leafs are at 49 pro contracts and need to sign Brown and Dzierkals and could use the flexibility.

I wouldn't expect a great return for the Leafs, but what would be the pick(s) that they could receive in this type of deal?

Why would any GM want to help Toronto out? If there are any players they are interested in that group, they can just wait until the Leafs put them on waivers.

If the Leafs want to send picks with them to NJ I could see it.

 

[Edmonton East]

I see no instance where the Devs trade picks for forwards at this point.

Top 9 locks: Hall, Palms, Zacha, Zajac, Mojo, Henrique
Remaining 3 spots: Nico, Quenneville, McLeod, Speers, Wood

 

[AfroThunder396]

Why would we give up picks for your trash when we have plenty of our own RFA's to sign?

 

[43Kadri43]

I ain't trading Leivo if I'm Toronto's management. Babcock has to figure out he's actually really good and play him first though.

This

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Thanks no thanks.

 

[thesaadfather]

What would be the asking price for Leivo to the Hawks?

 

[TheCLAM]

What would be the asking price for Leivo to the Hawks?

2nd round pick minimum IMO - he's got a great shot. Bad string of injuries

If Leivo can put it all together IMO 25 goals isn't out of the question