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Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
I'm sure he must be terrible given roughly 20 teams were after him ^^
You do remember Brown was traded to Ottawa last season???? Who says Moore is going anywhere????
This is literally exactly what people said about Mikheyev and he turned out to be an incredible player and a key part of the team.
Were they wrong about how Mikheyev projected? There wasn't a conspiracy to mislabel his game. He did better than expected. It doesn't mean that its anything other than unlikely that the same will happen for other players.
I think what we learned from Mikheyev is nobody knows how these KHL players will translate at the pro level. People thought he might not even make the team.
It was reported that the Leafs have been targeting this guy for several years. I doubt any team would devote that many resources to a player that thought would just be a bit player.
Its a no brainer step gap move and when against the cap you have to take your shots. Only downside is ufa after 2021 so if he does hit can leafs afford in a year?
Like Grigorenko, Kaprizov, Shipachyov, Jaskin, Jensen, Slepyshev, Hartikainen, Sekac etc
I fully expect my fellow Leafs fans to start pencilling this guy onto the first line. In fact, I’ve already seen it on our boards. Some people never learn.
We’ve already got posters in this thread, who I guarantee have never seen this guy play, saying Barabanov can play up and down the lineup much better than everyone else we’ve got.
Me, I’m fine with the signing. I’m just sick of people acting like just because it’s our team, Mr. run-of-the-mill FA will be something special, or that adding a bottom-6 forward will change anything meaningfully.
Girgensens would get 15-20 points. Maybe 25. His best season was 30 and that was in the Sabres tank year. If he’s your 3C I can see 25 points on the Leafs, but he’s usually the Sabres 4LW.
Yes you are right. I just went in and did a rough calculation with that lineup and it would bring us to around 84M if we were to sign Pietrangelo to around 9M. I was just making a point about how the Barabanov signing could potentially help us in other areas.This would be cap hell...
Yes I did forget Holl. I honestly don't see us pursuing Pietrangelo that hard unless he is willing to take a discount, which I don't think he will. If we were to sign Hamonic and maybe Gudas or someone similar, that could be some good additions.You forgot Holl and if they are signing Pietrangelo you need to move out Dermott as well. The trouble with all this is you now get paper thin again with your depth and injuries will cause the same issues the Leafs seen this season. I see one of Johnson or KK being moved for a Dman or Dman signing but Pietrangelo is not it. You lost that chance when Muzzin resigned.
Thanks for the input. The Sabres have had their issues with wingers for the past few years so I take his production with a grain of salt. Can he play C is my biggest question. I think Kap and Barabanov would take some of the pressure off him as they are both decent possession players and defensively responsible. How is he on the Dot?
Were they wrong about how Mikheyev projected? There wasn't a conspiracy to mislabel his game. He did better than expected. It doesn't mean that its anything other than unlikely that the same will happen for other players.
I think its just broadly a fair point that since few people on this forum are qualified (as in likely have never even seen him play a full game) to talk about realistic projections for the player, so overly negative predictions seemingly come off as particularly silly in reteospect
It was obviously a comment on the "art". That's clearly not a picture.Yeah I'm sure he skates like a 3 year old and that's why he was so sought after
The Leafs could trade their 3LW (Johnsson), insert Barabanov for this season, and then watch him walk in UFA next summer and it wouldn't matter.Its a no brainer step gap move and when against the cap you have to take your shots. Only downside is ufa after 2021 so if he does hit can leafs afford in a year?
Not if the solid 3rd liner is of lesser quality than the players currently filling that position. Is he better than Kappy? Kerfoot? If you're plugging a cheap guy into your lineup to free up cap space for other things he better be as good or better than the player he's replacing or you're just tinkering for the sake of saying you did something. Sorry bud, your crummy attempt at pretending to understand cap flexibility "aint it" as the kids on the short bus say.Solid 3rd liners at 900k allow you to spend and improve the club elsewhere. Sorry bud, your take on this ain't it.
Komorov type player I heard.
He has the name of a bust though
Not if the solid 3rd liner is of lesser quality than the players currently filling that position. Is he better than Kappy? Kerfoot? If you're plugging a cheap guy into your lineup to free up cap space for other things he better be as good or better than the player he's replacing or you're just tinkering for the sake of saying you did something. Sorry bud, your crummy attempt at pretending to understand cap flexibility "aint it" as the kids on the short bus say.
Putting a roster together is more than just saying our 3rd line winger makes 900k so he's a good fit for cap flexibility, the guys who play actually have to be better than their opponents on the ice. This guy is a 4th line scrub exactly the same as Malgin. Why we are signing yet another of these turds instead of saving that roster spot for a surprise veteran camp cut next year, or veteran ufa looking for one last run I'll never know.
If he's providing so much flexibility, I'd like to hear some proposals of who he plays with and what gets done with the alleged cap savings he'll provide. This should be good....
I've already explained this to you. From reports it doesn't look like Barabanov should have much issue fitting in and it looks like a guy like Johnsson is replaceable. There are many D men that are UFA that we can go after. Cap flexibility allows us to do that.Not if the solid 3rd liner is of lesser quality than the players currently filling that position. Is he better than Kappy? Kerfoot? If you're plugging a cheap guy into your lineup to free up cap space for other things he better be as good or better than the player he's replacing or you're just tinkering for the sake of saying you did something. Sorry bud, your crummy attempt at pretending to understand cap flexibility "aint it" as the kids on the short bus say.
Putting a roster together is more than just saying our 3rd line winger makes 900k so he's a good fit for cap flexibility, the guys who play actually have to be better than their opponents on the ice. This guy is a 4th line scrub exactly the same as Malgin. Why we are signing yet another of these turds instead of saving that roster spot for a surprise veteran camp cut next year, or veteran ufa looking for one last run I'll never know.
If he's providing so much flexibility, I'd like to hear some proposals of who he plays with and what gets done with the alleged cap savings he'll provide. This should be good....
2.4 million in cap savings gets you exactly zero players on your list. these alleged cap savings aren't even enough cash to get Hainsey back, and yet for that great savings you're risking that some never drafted KHL reject on the back half of his 20's is now all of a sudden going to be able to replace a hard working speed demon who puts up 40 points on a top line. Sure, it could happen and Sparks could be a number one goalie one day with enough support from the organization.I've already explained this to you. From reports it doesn't look like Barabanov should have much issue fitting in and it looks like a guy like Johnsson is replaceable. There are many D men that are UFA that we can go after. Cap flexibility allows us to do that.
Hamonic
Dillon
Brodie
Demelo
Edmundson
Bouwmeester (health)
Gudas
Pysyk
Braun
All guys who could help stabilize our offensive D men and fill a need for the Leafs. They should be better defensively than the likes of Barrie and Ceci
Mikheyev left the KHL at the age of 25 as well and was a great get for the leafs. Why are you so quick to dismiss a player you've never seen? 20 teams reportedly were after this guy. There must be a reason for it. The guy was said to be a top 10 skater in the KHL, has good puck skills and is a workhorse. Apparently he looked good playing on a line with Ovi and Kuznetsov at the WC. Maybe you should wait for him to actually play some games before you complain about a free asset that cost nothing but a near league minimum salary.2.4 million in cap savings gets you exactly zero players on your list. these alleged cap savings aren't even enough cash to get Hainsey back, and yet for that great savings you're risking that some never drafted KHL reject on the back half of his 20's is now all of a sudden going to be able to replace a hard working speed demon who puts up 40 points on a top line. Sure, it could happen and Sparks could be a number one goalie one day with enough support from the organization.