Proposal: [TOR/LA]

[Duke16]

A simple 1 for 1:

James Van Riemsdyk for Alec Martinez

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[KingCanadain1976]

No thanks Jvr is a ufa we can't afford to resign . Martinez is signed for two years. Also defense man have more value then wingers

 

[Ducks in a row]

No thanks Jvr is a ufa we can't afford to resign . Martinez is signed for two years. Also defense man have more value then wingers

He is signed through the 2020-21 season so its longer then two years.

 

[Skobel24]

Kings say hell no.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

He is signed through the 2020-21 season so its longer then two years.

yes ur correct i had his contract mixed up with Muzzins ty for pointing this out

 

[WTFMAN99]

We need defense but I don't think Martinez does enough.

Counter: Kapanen, 2 2nds, Fehr or Marincin (cap) for Muzzin. Willing to add a prospect at forward if needed as well.

 

[BlueBaron]

It will be a special time when people actually look at a teams needs before making a proposal. Only contenders are going to want JVR and guess what? They won't give us a top 4 D for him.

 

[613Leafer]

Leafs might have been able to do this two years ago. But JVR is a pending UFA now, their chance to trade him for anything except for futures is all but gone.

 

[Ducks in a row]

It will be a special time when people actually look at a teams needs before making a proposal. Only contenders are going to want JVR and guess what? They won't give us a top 4 D for him.

I agree with this.

 

[firstemperor]

We don't want Martinez, rather ride out JVR for the year

JVR may not fit a need for L.A given he's a rental but Martinez does nothing for us. We'd only have interest in Muzzin if the cost was low, but I wouldn't say he's an ideal fit either.

 

[Liferleafer]

JVR isn't getting a top 4D.....

 

[Drew311]

Martinez is an offensive defenseman which the Leafs have plenty of. Not a need at this point in time.

The Leafs top 4 has looked much improved so far this season so a move like this is not necessary. Zaitsev looks like he could become a top pairing defenseman and Hainsey was a solid addition to the second pairing.

 

[Brobust]

Alec Martinez's numbers are grossly inflated by LA's system. Not a player the leafs want or need.

 

[Drytoast]

it's be interesting to see where JVR actually lands.

And how much he's going to get when he arrives...lol.

 

[sparxx87]

JVR isn't getting a top 4D.....

Yeah, not as a pending UFA he isn’t.

Leafs will keep him for the season and the Rangers will overpay him in July.

 

[Halla]

The leafs are probably just better off keeping JVR.
Hyman-Marleau-Komarov-Martin as the LW isn't even as close to as strong as what we have now

 

[Halla]

fearless predicition.

leafs sign JVR for 7 years @ 5.25 million per and roll with the NHLs top offense for at least 2 more years

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Alec Martinez's numbers are grossly inflated by LA's system. Not a player the leafs want or need.

LA systems does the exact opposite of what you speak. Martinez is a solid two way defenceman who’s proven clutch in the playoffs. He’d be a worthwhile addition for any playoff bound club.

 

[Fishhead]

Alec Martinez's numbers are grossly inflated by LA's system. Not a player the leafs want or need.

This has to be the first time I have ever seen LA associated with inflated numbers. No system supresses numbers quite like the kings has.

 

[Reaper45]

Alec Martinez's numbers are grossly inflated by LA's system. Not a player the leafs want or need.

Based on what? If anything guys produce less here than elsewhere, at least in the recent past.

 

[TwzKing]

Alec Martinez's numbers are grossly inflated by LA's system. Not a player the leafs want or need.

If they are then he has no points, none of the kings players have any points lol

 

[Ducks in a row]

Alec Martinez's numbers are grossly inflated by LA's system. Not a player the leafs want or need.

This is just crazy no way is his numbers grossly inflated by LA's sysetem if anything it is lower.

 

[Holymakinaw]

It will be a special time when people actually look at a teams needs before making a proposal. Only contenders are going to want JVR and guess what? They won't give us a top 4 D for him.

This is very likely true. The Leafs should just trade JVR to some contending team like Nashville or LA or whoever, for FUTURES.

Then they can take whatever prospects/picks they get for him, and try to land their top-4 Defenceman from some other non-contending team.

 

[JackFr]

This has to be the first time I have ever seen LA associated with inflated numbers. No system supresses numbers quite like the kings has.

He's talking about possession numbers, but I think he's thinking of Muzzin because Martinez actually doesn't have very good possession numbers at all.

I wouldn't do this if I were the Leafs, they need a top pairing RD.

 

[Brobust]

LA systems does the exact opposite of what you speak. Martinez is a solid two way defenceman who’s proven clutch in the playoffs. He’d be a worthwhile addition for any playoff bound club.

Clutchness is a bad indicator of player's value. It's why Bryan Bickell got loads of money.

Martinez gets more O-zone utilization and plays easier competition behind Doughty and yet he's a negative relative corsi player. I would lose faith in Toronto management if they target a player like him.