Proposal: [TOR/CHI] J. Van Riemsdyk @50% For N. Schmaltz, A. Desjardins +

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Leafs needs D men and thats it.

And a backup goalie, no Mcbackup is not good enough

 

[TBC]

GOAT is out until January he's a non factor this year

He still could be used next year at some point. Season doesn't end in January which is why I put a /. Boyle might not even be re-signed but the 4th line really didn't matter in my point. The point was our top 3 lines all have a centre and we don't need to add one.

 

[rick hawk]

Chicago adds salary when they need to shed it. Desjardins is a UFA. This makes no sense at all.

 

[Funk21]

Leafs seem like they need LW's more than C's to be honest.

This x10

 

[thesaadfather]

Schmaltz looked pretty good playing LW with Toews in the 2nd half. I'd much rather let him grow then trade him for a year of JVR.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Jvr + 2nd in 2017

For

Hartman + Pokka + 1st in 2017

 

[CamelToews]

Let's create more holes while adding to our position of strength! Makes complete sense.

Totally

 

[thesaadfather]

Jvr + 2nd in 2017

For

Hartman + Pokka + 1st in 2017

Not trading Hartman for a rental.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Not trading Hartman for a rental.

Jvr isn't your typical rental. First of all you'd have him for a full year instead of a couple months if you traded for him at the deadline.

 

[thesaadfather]

Jvr isn't your typical rental. First of all you'd have him for a full year instead of a couple months if you traded for him at the deadline.

That's fine, JVR is certainly worth something nice. But Hartman scored 19 goals as a rookie playing on the 3rd line with no PP time this year. He's a young, cost-controlled player that's already contributing. The Hawks aren't in a position to be trading guys like that.

 

[Duffman955]

Toronto doesnt need centers.

Matthews
Kadri
Bozak

 

[Halla]

our LW depth becomes

Hyman
Komarov
Martin
Rychel

pass

 

[Halla]

Not trading Hartman for a rental.

the trade deadline is in march...next year

 

[thesaadfather]

the trade deadline is in march...next year

A rental is something you'll have only temporarily. If the Hawks made this trade, they can only keep JVR for a year. He's a one year rental.

 

[Ctrain2k]

Ok then why are Hawks trading the kid?

1 year of JVR is not worth giving up a major piece of future

Hawks aren't exactly a young team

They aren't just a leafs fan trying to scam them.

 

[DougGilmour93]

A rental is something you'll have only temporarily. If the Hawks made this trade, they can only keep JVR for a year. He's a one year rental.

A one year rental, potentially. But he's not your typical rental so please don't value him as one. (As the typical rental 3-4 month rental)

Plus, what's stopping Chicago from extending him?

 

[Central PA Hawk Fan]

Plus, what's stopping Chicago from extending him?

The cap. Unless you're taking Seabrook in this deal...

 

[DougGilmour93]

The cap. Unless you're taking Seabrook in this deal...

Perhaps you could unload Kruger? If that would help of course...

 

[thesaadfather]

A one year rental, potentially. But he's not your typical rental so please don't value him as one. (As the typical rental 3-4 month rental)

Plus, what's stopping Chicago from extending him?

I mean, if you don't want to think of him as a typical rental, that's fine. An atypical rental is still a rental.

What's stopping the Hawks from extending him? The salary cap. That's not really something you can get around easily.

 

[thesaadfather]

Perhaps you could unload Kruger? If that would help of course...

We're already doing that this offseason to get under. Even so, moving Kruger's 3.1 mil salary isn't enough to make room for the big raise JVR is looking at on his next contract.

 

[Canada4Gold]

I keep getting the Schmaltz's mixed up so I just assumed this was the defenseman at first. Then I say it's the center/LW and it makes no sense. Then i saw the OP slotting Schmaltz in above Kadri as the long term 2C, and was borderline laughing. Schmaltz will be very lucky if he develops into a better center than Kadri. If this ever happened Schmaltz would likely be a LW or a 3C for us until the unlikely point where he surpassed Kadri on the depth chart.

This has the smell of someone who likes that 1 guy some other team has so goes out and looks for a trade for them even if it's not a need at all. If the makeup of the team was a bit different then the trade may make some sense. As is it doesn't.

 

[DougGilmour93]

We're already doing that this offseason to get under. Even so, moving Kruger's 3.1 mil salary isn't enough to make room for the big raise JVR is looking at on his next contract.

Jvr makes 4.25 now and at best he'll make 6. Only an increase of 1.75. Hardly unmanageable.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Jvr makes 4.25 now and at best he'll make 6. Only an increase of 1.75. Hardly unmanageable.

They're already over the cap right now without JVR, they probably can't even take on JVR @50% let alone JVR at 4.25, let alone JVR at 6 or more the following year. It's unmanageable when you're already over the cap and you can't even fit a free JVR in.

 

[SAADfather]

Have yet to see an offer that makes any sense for the Hawks in this thread. The time where the Hawks would be interested in JVR has probably passed. I just don't see Stan willing to throw away assets with plenty of cost control years left for one year of JVR.

 

[Duke16]

I keep getting the Schmaltz's mixed up so I just assumed this was the defenseman at first. Then I say it's the center/LW and it makes no sense. Then i saw the OP slotting Schmaltz in above Kadri as the long term 2C, and was borderline laughing. Schmaltz will be very lucky if he develops into a better center than Kadri. If this ever happened Schmaltz would likely be a LW or a 3C for us until the unlikely point where he surpassed Kadri on the depth chart.

This has the smell of someone who likes that 1 guy some other team has so goes out and looks for a trade for them even if it's not a need at all. If the makeup of the team was a bit different then the trade may make some sense. As is it doesn't.

Bozak was technically slotted above Kadri most nights and he's not better. The way I listed them was in no order.