Proposal: TOR - CBJ - CHI

[Kevin Musto]

Understandable, what about an early NJD 5th apposed to an early CBJ 6th? That beats the VGK pick at #153. Probably would come in under pick #130 most likely.

When Toronto got a 5th in the Lehner trade, they paid $190,000.

Chicago isn't going to pay 7 times that amount, in a year with no revenue.

You're looking at a 3rd or late 2nd.

 

[123offtheglass]

When Toronto got a 5th in the Lehner trade, they paid $190,000.

Chicago isn't going to pay 7 times that amount, in a year with no revenue.

You're looking at a 3rd or late 2nd.

heh where's the math on that

 

[Kevin Musto]

heh where's the math on that

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190,000 x 7 = 1,330,000

Your proposal says Chicago would be out 1.375m.

 

[123offtheglass]

?

190,000 x 7 = 1,330,000

Your proposal says Chicago would be out 1.375m.

Cap hit not salary, I guess the prorated retention of 1.375m would be significantly impacted by the timing of a deal, I kind of assumed the TOR retention on Lehner had been more.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Cap hit not salary, I guess the prorated retention of 1.375m would be significantly impacted by the timing of a deal, I kind of assumed the TOR retention on Lehner had been more.

Foligno's salary this year is the same as his cap hit.

No idea how much will have been paid by the deadline though.

 

[123offtheglass]

Honestly maybe CBJ just sends over LTIR Dubinsky to ease things up somehow because that's BIG money, along with other alterations to make it worthwhile for all 3 teams, with the third team Chicago receiving something better as well as the Leafs for eating Dubinsky's remaining LTIR salary.

 

[123offtheglass]

Foligno's salary this year is the same as his cap hit.

No idea how much will have been paid by the deadline though.

I thought it was about a quarter of remaining base salary but with Lehner it would have been ($190,000/$1,100,000)*(4m/5m)=roughly 13.8% at the TDL. Maybe Dubinsky's LTIR contract could be involved (to Toronto) to further help Columbus money wise because that's a big one on their books, but where Chicago & Toronto would receive better draft pick compensation in the same deal. He's on his final year with a big base salary of 5.85m.

Edit: Or even Zach Smith on LTIR out of Chicago or a different third party doing the same if they had an LTIR contract, where the deal would actually help them cash wise

 

[Kevin Musto]

Honestly maybe CBJ just sends over LTIR Dubinsky to ease things up somehow because that's BIG money, along with other alterations to make it worthwhile for all 3 teams, with the third team Chicago receiving something better as well as the Leafs for eating Dubinsky's remaining LTIR salary.

Yeah Chicago would eat Dubinsky's salary for a good return.

 

[123offtheglass]

Yeah Chicago would eat Dubinsky's salary for a good return.

I think I edited it to Toronto but yea either way. Zach Smith is also on LTIR in Chicago and out for the season correct? Toronto could eat that cash while Chicago retains on Foligno, actually saving money but not receiving the draft pick, Toronto would get that small pick out of Columbus instead of Chicago receiving it. The Leafs would want to finalize their deals before doing so as they would be absolutely finished accumilating any cap space for the remainder of the season.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I think I edited it to Toronto but yea either way. Zach Smith is also on LTIR in Chicago and out for the season correct? Toronto could eat that cash while Chicago retains on Foligno, actually saving money but not receiving the draft pick, Toronto would get that small pick out of Columbus. The Leafs would want to finalize their deals before doing so as they would be absolutely finished accumilating any cap space for the remainder of the season.

Chicago doesn't need to offload Smith. His contract expires this year.

 

[cwede]

i don't care about precedent, just because someone else did it that way once,
Hawks have no need to do this for so little return,
If CBJ and TML both want this deal, and need the Cap help to complete it, they should each toss the Hawks a 4th

 

[123offtheglass]

Chicago doesn't need to offload Smith. His contract expires this year.

I know but just cash wise. They could retain on Foligno while saving dollars in doing so by offloading Smith. No picks going in or out as they're just helping with the CBJ-TOR deal while saving money in the process.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I know but just cash wise. They could retain on Foligno while saving dollars in doing so by offloading Smith. No picks going in or out as they're just helping with the CBJ-TOR deal while saving money in the process.

Hawks have no cash flow or financial issues

 

[123offtheglass]

Hawks have no cash flow or financial issues

It helps them with cash and has zero effect on their assets, but maybe they're not the third party team for it if they wouldn't want to save money while retaining.