Top Enforcers of the past 20 years?

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  1. Charge_Seven

    Charge_Seven Registered User

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    Who would make the "Tough Guy" Hall of Fame?

    Not thinking of offensive abilities, or anything else. Strictly who were the toughest, meanest, feistiest players of the past 20 years? Some justification would be nice.
     
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    [1.]Bob Probert
    [2.]Jay Miller
    [3.]Chris Nilan
    [4.]Joe Kocur
    [5.]Stu Grimson
     
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    Good Topic

    1. Bob Probert-In my mind the toughest player ever to lace em up. Was the complete package. He also covers the mean part of the equasion he would do anything to win a scrap.

    2. Dave Brown-The best leftie since I have been following the game close. Also one mean SOB, He would hit you when you were down, give you the lumber and also legitimatly kick ass.

    3.Joe Kocur-The Hardest puncher that I ever saw. Just ask Brad Dalgarno, Jim Playfair or any of his many victims. Also he paid the price for it his hands were horribly beat up but he didnt use that as an excuse not to do his job and he gets kudos for that.

    4. Craig Berube-Probably the fastest puncher that I saw " The Chief" threw em fast and hard and was one of the few guys to give a Prime Probie fits.

    5. Tie Domi- His biggest weapons was his unusually hard head but he has big time fighting ability a card that is second to none.

    6. Rob Ray-I know a lot of people think that he only was effective because of his Jersey trick. I used to be one of them. But if you watch footage of him after the Rob Ray rule was put in he had as many victories or more as before and during the time that he played he had almost as many if not as many KO"s andd TKO's as Tony Twist.

    7.Tony Twist-The second best Pure puncher next to Kocur that I Saw. (I Know that sounds wierd after saying that Ray had aas many KO's and TKO's as Twister but Ray had a lot more scraps.) Twisters Broke a lot of peop;es faces including Rob Ray and Mark Jannsens and had Numerous KO's including Peluso and Shawn Antoski.

    8. Marty McSorley-Awesome Stamina and a great card.

    9. John Kordic-" Rambo was a awesome fighter with an incredibly quick left hand, his wars with Jay Miller and Basil McRae were legendary and in Bettmans NHL seem to sadly be a dying breed.

    10. Stu Grimson-The Grim Reaper was feared for good reason this was a huge man with lots and lots of ability who got better and better as his career went on. He KO"d Reid Simpson in a brutal KO in a game I Attended.

    11. Jay Miller-See John Kordic alhough he seemed more willing and able to use the right hand.

    12.Jeff Odgers-Showed up every night and battled for whateer theam he played far and the league needs more players like him.

    13. Jim Cummins-Much like Odgers a true warrior.

    14. Shane Churla-Fast puncher who battled every night.

    15. Darin Kimble-See Churla. In fact the two had the best fight I have seen live during the 90-91 playoffs.

    16. Jim McKenzie-A great fighter who is still playing and is often overlooked because he has changed teams a lot but he has supreme skills and gave Twist fits when they fought.

    17. Kelly Chase-not a big man but a true warrior and the smartest fighter that I saw

    I have only been following the fights closely since 90-91 and left of a lot of the older greats like Gillies, Fotiu, Behn Wilson, Nystrom because I have seen very little of them and I didnt use any curreent kids because I ned to see a lot more of most of them.

    The list isnt meant to be in order I was just using anames and adding reasons why they would be in a tough guys HOF.
     
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    c-carp has a good list.

    I'd also add Behn Wilson. He was a good defenseman, but he could really throw'em. IMO the best fighter the Flyers have ever had (and that's saying something :D ) . Wilson had great one-punch power, just a devastating left hand.

    Some others, more short term guys: Darryl Stanley and Glen Cochrane.
     
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    no love for Semenko yet?
     
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    No kidding! Semenko's gotta be top three.
     
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    Sandy McCarthy. Not the Sandy of the past few years, the Sandy of the mid 90's with Calgary.
     
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    Tiger Williams, Dave Semenko, Tie Domi and Bob Probert would by my top 4 nominations into this fictional Tough Guy Hall of fame.
     
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    Every once in a while there will come someone who will post something so overwhelming and detailed, it will frighten the rest of the posters away.
    :bow:
     
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    Beautifil list, that's above and beyond anything I ever expected anyone to put up.
     
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    John Ferguson. One of thoughest players to ever wear the bleu, blanc et rouge and the biggest reason why bigger teams weren't allowed to manhandle the smaller stars of the Montreal Canadiens during the 60s. From the moment he suited up for the Montreal Canadiens Ferguson vowed to be "the meanest, rottenest, most miserable cuss ever to play in the NHL."

    For his career: 500 games, 145 goals, 303 points and 1214 penalty minutes.
     
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    Clark Gillies - Didn't have a lot of takers but was certainly one of the best in his day.
     
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    1A. Probert - sheer # of fights, longevity, didn't agree with the untied shirt thing, big addy.

    1B Wilson - no known losses, could throw with ANYBODY, when he felt like it, not a true team enforcer.

    2 Gillies - Jethro is the essence of the true power forward.

    3 Brown - the epitome of a true team enforcer, never refused the dance.

    4 Howe/Ferguson - would have been forces in ANY era.

    5 Johnathon, Domi, Fraser, Nilan, Holt, Brigdman, Nystrom, Howatt - who says sze matters?

    6 Fotiu, McSorley, Twist, etc., on ant given day could beat anybody.

    7 out of time....... :dunno:
     
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    probert was just a bad ass
    grimson was fun to watch moida ppl too
     
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    Larry Playfair (used to have trouble finding people to dance with)
    Joey Kocur (used to tape his fingers before every game)
    Dave Brown (dirty, dirty, dirty..."likes to fight" guy)
    Jeff Chychrun (helped restore Flyers B.S.B. days in the mid-80's)
    Bob Probert (obvious reasons...just one sick dude)
    Alan May (wanted to "go" every night)
    Dave Schultz (The Hammer)
    Tony Twist (one punch'll shatter your orbital bone)
    Brad May (ask Ken Baumgartner and Terry Carkner)
    Kevin Maguire (now a linesman; had one hell of a rivalry with Probert in the 80's)
    Troy Malette (he was pretty decent)
    Rob Ray (homer pick, but good at the job- won more often than not)

    these are a few that come to mind off the top of my head....
     
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    Probert.
     
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    Definatly the NO1 guy in my opinion, Who else would you put on a list.
     
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    Probert was obviously a far better player, but I don't recall dave Brown ever losing a fight as a member of the Flyers, I didn't see him play too many of his games in Edmonton.
     
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    Troy Crowder
     
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    I also agree Wendel Clark should be on the list somewhere. I personally don't recall Wendel ever losing too many fights and he took on all big boys (Probert, McSorley, etc.).

    He was a good hockey player too, better than many of the goons already mentioned. Great shot.
     
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    Awesome for a brief period, but for me he just didnt maintain it long enough. When he left the devils and went to Detriot you didnt hear much from him. I know that he had back problems. I put him much like Gaetz but for different reasons great while they were here but not here long enough. Even though Troy was around longer then Gaetz.
     
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    Well, homer pick since is hands down my fav enforcer ever but Gino Odjick deserve a mention: in the first years in the league when he wasn't injured he was a questionable top 5 if not top 3 in a VERY tough league.
     
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    Clark could probably go with the best of them, however his talent ruins him as an enforcer :D
     
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