Top 5 franchises in the Cap- Era (To Date)

[nbwingsfan]

I disagree. The one specified in the title is best in the cap era. That doesn't say overall, it says since the cap came in.

The Hawks IMO were the best. Their peak and dominance has been unmatched in the cap era.

The best franchise over the whole cap era, which includes every year of the cap. Sure the Hawks had the best peak of 5 or so years, but had many more down years than the Pens as well.

To me who's #1 and #2 are obvious.

 

[M2Beezy]

Seems crazy easy five just debate of the order

1 Pittsburgh 3 cups, 4 finals, conpetitive for longer then Chi
2 Chicago 3 cups
3 LA, 2 cups
4 Washington 1 cup, generally always high ranking and competitive
5 Boston, 1 cup, 2 finals

 

[Kamiccolo]

The best franchise over the whole cap era, which includes every year of the cap. Sure the Hawks had the best peak of 5 or so years, but had many more down years than the Pens as well.

To me who's #1 and #2 are obvious.

Although it should be pointed out, they both have something in common.. Illegal deals signed under the old CBA for some of their best pieces.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Pens
Hawks
Kings
Caps
Bruins
Vegas

 

[nbwingsfan]

Although it should be pointed out, they both have something in common.. Illegal deals signed under the old CBA for some of their best pieces.

For sure, basically all the successful teams have benefitted from some questionable signings/deals.

Pens: Crosby/Malkin
Caps: Ovi
Hawks: Keith/Hossa
Wings: Zetterberg (not when they were at their best though)
LA: Richards disappearing

 

[nbwingsfan]

Seems crazy easy five just debate of the order

1 Pittsburgh 3 cups, 4 finals, conpetitive for longer then Chi
2 Chicago 3 cups
3 LA, 2 cups
4 Washington 1 cup, generally always high ranking and competitive
5 Boston, 1 cup, 2 finals

Wings also have a cup and 2 finals (same as Bruins/better than Caps) and were also very high in the standings until recently. Weird to omit them

 

[tony d]

Pittsburgh
Chicago
Los Angeles
Washington
Detroit

In that order

 

[ESH]

I think Anaheim is getting underrated here. They’ve been a contender for as long as any other team here

 

[895]

For sure, basically all the successful teams have benefitted from some questionable signings/deals.

Pens: Crosby/Malkin
Caps: Ovi
Hawks: Keith/Hossa
Wings: Zetterberg (not when they were at their best though)
LA: Richards disappearing

What's not legit about Ovechkin's contract? It's doesn't have any years tacked on.

 

[nbwingsfan]

What's not legit about Ovechkin's contract? It's doesn't have any years tacked on.

I just meant the 13 years, that of course is not allowed anymore.

 

[Roasted Nuts]

The rankings prove that people value cups over regular season success. No one remembers the streak of success that SJ had in the regular season. The fact that Carolina is mentioned ahead of San Jose shows how valuable a cup is. Since they won in 2005, the Canes have made the playoffs once, while the Sharks have missed the playoffs once in 13 years.

 

[flamesforcup]

I think San Jose deserves some love despite no cup win. Very consistant team the last decade+.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The rankings prove that people value cups over regular season success. No one remembers the streak of success that SJ had in the regular season. The fact that Carolina is mentioned ahead of San Jose shows how valuable a cup is. Since they won in 2005, the Canes have made the playoffs once, while the Sharks have missed the playoffs once in 13 years.

For sure. Although their regular season success is likely forgotten for how many times they flopped in the playoffs as the favorite

 

[Adele Dazeem]

1. Chicago
2. Pittsburgh
3. Los Angeles
4. Washington
5. Detroit

6. Boston
7. Anaheim
8. Ottawa
9. San Jose
10. Vancouver

 

[treple13]

Seems crazy easy five just debate of the order

1 Pittsburgh 3 cups, 4 finals, conpetitive for longer then Chi
2 Chicago 3 cups
3 LA, 2 cups
4 Washington 1 cup, generally always high ranking and competitive
5 Boston, 1 cup, 2 finals

I don't see how you can easily pick those 5 and leave Detroit with 1 Cup, 2 finals, & Anaheim with 1 Cup, 4 conference Finals out of the debate

 

[Nizdizzle]

The rankings prove that people value cups over regular season success. No one remembers the streak of success that SJ had in the regular season. The fact that Carolina is mentioned ahead of San Jose shows how valuable a cup is. Since they won in 2005, the Canes have made the playoffs once, while the Sharks have missed the playoffs once in 13 years.

I think if you ask fans which they would rather;

A.) 1 Cup win and 9 seasons without playoffs
B.) 10 consecutive playoffs seasons, but no cup

I assume the vast majority would take the former. It shouldn't be a surprise that people take cup wins over regular season success.

 

[justafan22]

Vancouver's last 3 1/2 years has pushed them down quite a bit.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

1. Pittsburgh
2. Chicago
3. Los Angeles
4. Washington
5. Detroit

 

[Regal]

I think LA's getting overrated due to essentially 3 seasons out of 14. I have them 6th

 

[bambamcam4ever]

I think LA's getting overrated due to essentially 3 seasons out of 14. I have them 6th

Agree, they haven't won a playoff round outside of those 3 seasons.

 

[M2Beezy]

Not sure how anyone can put Detroit over Boston if we look at the whole last 10-15 years with emphasis on now as well

 

[filinski77]

Sine 2005/2006:

Top 10 Regular Season Teams as far as total points
1) Sharks
2) Penguins
3) Ducks
4) Capitals
5) Red Wings
6) Predators
7) Bruins
8) Rangers
9) Blackhawks
10) Stars

Top 10 Highest single season points finishes
1) Red Wings - 124
2) Capitals - 121
3) Capitals - 120
4) Capitals - 118
5-8) Canucks/Bruins/Sharks/Predators - 117
9-10) Ducks/Bruins -116

Top 10 in Total Playoff Wins
1) Penguins
2) Blackhawks
3) Ducks
4) Sharks
5) Red Wings
6) Bruins
7) Capitals
8) Rangers
9) Lightning
10) Predators

My top 5 (in no order)
- Penguins (Top Regular season team, plus 3 cups)
- Blackhawks (3 cups, inconsistent regular season team for the most part)
- Caps (won the cup, one of best regular season teams with the most top seasons)
- Ducks (Consistent regular season and playoff threat)
- Sharks (Same as Ducks)

 

[Regal]

Sine 2005/2006:

Top 10 Regular Season Teams as far as total points
1) Sharks
2) Penguins
3) Ducks
4) Capitals
5) Red Wings
6) Predators
7) Bruins
8) Rangers
9) Blackhawks
10) Stars

Top 10 Highest single season points finishes
1) Red Wings - 124
2) Capitals - 121
3) Capitals - 120
4) Capitals - 118
5-8) Canucks/Bruins/Sharks/Predators - 117
9-10) Ducks/Bruins -116

Top 10 in Total Playoff Wins
1) Penguins
2) Blackhawks
3) Ducks
4) Sharks
5) Red Wings
6) Bruins
7) Capitals
8) Rangers
9) Lightning
10) Predators

My top 5 (in no order)
- Penguins (Top Regular season team, plus 3 cups)
- Blackhawks (3 cups, inconsistent regular season team for the most part)
- Caps (won the cup, one of best regular season teams with the most top seasons)
- Ducks (Consistent regular season and playoff threat)
- Sharks (Same as Ducks)

I kind of forgot how successful the Ducks have been.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Not sure how anyone can put Detroit over Boston if we look at the whole last 10-15 years with emphasis on now as well

Why are we putting an emphasis on now? They actually have very similar success rates since the lockout?

Detroit:
Five 1st rd loses
Three 2nd rd loses
One 3rd rd loss
One finals loss
One cup win
Two missed playoffs
* Cup/Finals were back to back
** about to be 3 playoff loses

Boston:
Three 1st rd loses
Four 2nd rd loses
Zero 3rd rd loses
One finals loss
One cup win
Four missed playoffs
*will very likely make the playoffs this season

How exactly is Boston at a clear advantage?

 

[Syrinx]

You are using the Hawks past their prime. They had the most dominant stretch in the cap era is my point.

For example I would say a team with 4 cups in a row >> a team with 4 cups in 10 years.

If you are going to narrow the time frame (which isn't what the OP asked), the most dominant stretch was a repeat.