Seanconn*
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I would put Chelios ahead... I just totally forgot him in my earlier post.
Bourque had four 1st team all-stars and two 2nd teams after 1992. He was also a much bigger contributor to a cup win than Selanne was. And even though he is a defenseman, his 0.70 playoff PPG is higher than Selanne's - ouch!
Fedorov, Sakic, and Forsberg have been addressed just fine by other posters already.
Why would Pronger be behind Selanne. Can anyone honestly claim Selanne has been more valuable to his teams than Pronger?
all time list, I'll agree with you on Borque > Selanne with no argument, obviously. this list? come on. Borque maybe deserved a spot on my list over Gonchar or Zubov... but they both scored more points than him during that time period. plus all three have cups... so since they were all in there primes, and bourque wasn't.. I'll keep them on... but put him on your list by all means. (if you ever post one) he definitely played amazingly well as a veteran defensemen from 92/93 onwards, and was one of the best right up until his retirement... maybe he'd be number 26 on my list? I was heavy on forwards...
was Selanne more valuable to the MightyDucks, than Pronger was to the Blues in the 1990's? I'd say it's close, since Selanne and Kariya were basically equally important to the Mighty Ducks as Pronger was to the Blues, but I'll give the edge to Pronger on the Blues.
was Selanne more important to the Ducks than Pronger was in the time they played together in Anaheim up until they won the cup? 100% most defintiely. leading scorer on the team by a long shot, in the two seasons leading up to the eventual cup win... vs top pairing D-man added to the team the season leading up to the cup win, Selanne beats out Pronger as important to the Anaheim Ducks in my opinion, no debate. (pronger may have been the missing piece that made winning the cup possible, but he was equally as important as Neids) therefore, Selanne gets the edge.
also, this thread isn't top25 players in hart voting, or most valuable to their teams 92/93 and onwards, it's top 25 individuals.