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Top ten in scoring & Selke voting (in the same season)
** Updated through 2023
Disclaimers
** Updated through 2023
| Player | Season | Scoring | Selke |
| Adam Oates | 1993 | 3 | 10 |
| Aleksander Barkov | 2019 | 10 | 5 |
| Anze Kopitar | 2018 | 7 | 1 |
| Auston Matthews | 2022 | 6 | 10 |
| Bobby Clarke | 1978 | 8 | 2 |
| Brad Marchand | 2020 | 6 | 9 |
| Brad Marchand | 2021 | 3 | 9 |
| Brent Sutter | 1985 | 10 | 8 |
| Bryan Trottier | 1981 | 10 | 8 |
| Bryan Trottier | 1984 | 8 | 2 |
| Daniel Alfredsson | 2006 | 4 | 4 |
| Daniel Alfredsson | 2008 | 9 | 10 |
| Doug Gilmour | 1987 | 5 | 6 |
| Doug Gilmour | 1993 | 7 | 1 |
| Doug Gilmour | 1994 | 4 | 2 |
| Elias Pettersson | 2023 | 10 | 7 |
| Henrik Zetterberg | 2008 | 6 | 3 |
| Jari Kurri | 1983 | 9 | 2 |
| Jari Kurri | 1984 | 7 | 3 |
| Jari Kurri | 1985 | 2 | 4 |
| Jari Kurri | 1986 | 4 | 5 |
| Jari Kurri | 1987 | 2 | 10 |
| Jari Kurri | 1989 | 8 | 10 |
| Jeremy Roenick | 1992 | 7 | 9 |
| Joe Pavelski | 2014 | 8 | 8 |
| Joe Sakic | 2000 | 8 | 10 |
| Joe Sakic | 2001 | 2 | 2 |
| Joe Sakic | 2002 | 5 | 9 |
| Joe Thornton | 2016 | 4 | 5 |
| Mark Messier | 1992 | 5 | 9 |
| Martin St. Louis | 2004 | 1 | 4 |
| Michel Goulet | 1984 | 3 | 8 |
| Mike Modano | 2002 | 9 | 6 |
| Mike Modano | 2003 | 10 | 6 |
| Mitch Marner | 2021 | 4 | 10 |
| Nicklas Backstrom | 2010 | 4 | 10 |
| Nicklas Backstrom | 2017 | 4 | 7 |
| Patrik Elias | 2001 | 3 | 8 |
| Pavel Datsyuk | 2008 | 4 | 1 |
| Pavel Datsyuk | 2009 | 4 | 1 |
| Pavel Datsyuk | 2013 | 10 | 3 |
| Peter Forsberg | 1998 | 2 | 6 |
| Peter Forsberg | 1999 | 4 | 8 |
| Peter Forsberg | 2003 | 1 | 4 |
| Rick Middleton | 1984 | 10 | 4 |
| Ron Francis | 1995 | 5 | 1 |
| Ron Francis | 1996 | 4 | 2 |
| Ron Francis | 1997 | 8 | 8 |
| Ron Francis | 1998 | 5 | 4 |
| Ryan Getzlaf | 2014 | 2 | 10 |
| Sergei Fedorov | 1994 | 2 | 1 |
| Sergei Fedorov | 1996 | 9 | 1 |
| Sidney Crosby | 2016 | 3 | 7 |
| Sidney Crosby | 2017 | 2 | 10 |
| Sidney Crosby | 2018 | 10 | 9 |
| Sidney Crosby | 2019 | 5 | 4 |
| Steve Yzerman | 2000 | 10 | 1 |
| Zack Parise | 2009 | 5 | 8 |
Disclaimers
- This list combines an objective statistic with subjective voting; it's up to you to decide if the results are meaningful.
- I'm fairly sure this list is complete but please let me know if I'm missing anybody.
- Selke voting started in 1978 so I'm obviously missing useful information for players who had most or all of their career prior to that season (Clarke, Mikita, Nighbor, H. Richard, Keon, etc).
- There have been obvious biases and patterns in Selke voting over the years; sometimes the voters seem to favour the best purely defensive forwards, and other years they vote for a complete star forward. It's tough to say if the results in different years are comparable.
- Kurri leads the way with an incredible six seasons. Understandably, he was overshadowed by Gretzky. I think a lot of modern fans have forgotten that Kurri was a highly intelligent, disciplined positional defensive forward. Although I don't think Kurri could have scored 130 points without Gretzky, he still proved he was a consistent elite scorer without TGO (but that's a topic for another thread).
- Francis is next, with four seasons. Although I think he's overrated by casual fans (who incorrectly assume that he was a dominant scorer due to the fact that he played a long time in hockey's second-highest scoring era), maybe we're underrating him on this forum. His defensive play is, if anything, underrated. (Updated for 2019 - Sidney Crosby has now tied him).
- Datsyuk, Forsberg, Gilmour and Sakic each have three appearances on this list; Alfredsson, Backstrom, Fedorov, Marchard, Modano and Trottier each have two.
- I was surprised to see Goulet earn a spot on this list. I know he's above-average defensively but I didn't realize there was at least one season when he was deemed Selke-worthy.
- Brent Sutter is likely the worst player on this list -- it's amazing what playing one year with Mike Bossy can do for your stats.
- No player has ever won the Art Ross & Selke in the same season. Fedorov came closest (winning the Selke in 1994 while finishing 2nd in scoring to Gretzky). Sakic was runner-up for both awards in 2001.
- One would expect that players who are great offensively & defensively would fare well in Hart trophy voting, but that's not always the case. There are only six Hart-winning seasons on this list (Messier in 1992, Fedorov in 1994, Sakic in 2001, Forsberg in 2003, St. Louis in 2004 and Matthews in 2022), and only eight more seasons where the player finished top three in Hart voting (Gilmour 2nd in 1993; Trottier 3rd in 1984; Datsyuk 3rd in 2009; Getzlaf 2nd in 2014; Crosby 2nd in 2016, 2017 and 2019; Kopitar 3rd in 2018). Kurri and Francis, the players with the most spots on this list, never placed higher than 14th in Hart voting during their seasons listed above (largely because they were overshadowed by some all-time greats).
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