Boud
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Then watch more hockey guy
Meh. Heard this one before. The Weber argument.
Then watch more hockey guy
You mean that Doughty led his team in scoring, played most minutes out of anyone (on a broken foot) and was the undisputed Conn Smythe favorite according to all media outlets in any of those two runs? I don't seem to recall that... might have to Google it to refresh my memory.Go back and look at Doughty’s stat lines during both cup runs... same thing Karlsson did and some would have had no problem with him having won MVP that season
Currently, list who you think are the Top 10 NHL defenders in the league. Think of it this way, if you had to arm your team with a d-man for a game tonight...who would be your first 10 choices?
My list:
1)Doughty
2)Pietrangelo
3)Hedman
4)Josi
5)Keith
6)Karlsson
7)Burns
8)Werenksi
9)Parayko
10)Subban
This is a subjective list of who YOU would want, not who may actually be "the best" in the league.
#2?I would not rank Krug #1 because Karlsson is #1.
Oops. Meant to say Giordano.Josi is your #7 and gets a HM. Just put him on 6 and we're good.
1. Roman Josi
2. P.K Subban
3. Mattias Ekholm
4. Ryan Ellis
5. Matt Irwin
6. Alexie Emelin
7. Yannick Weber
8. Anthony Bitetto
9. Dante Fabbro
10. Petter Granberg
Thats funny, I see to remember a 22YO doughty racking up 16pts in route to the cup and 18pts at 24yO in route to the second.... anyone that watched that first run would tell that Kopitar, Brown and Quick were amazing but Drew Doughty was the best player in those playoffs... so nice try but do a little more googlingYou mean that Doughty led his team in scoring, played most minutes out of anyone (on a broken foot) and was the undisputed Conn Smythe favorite according to all media outlets in any of those two runs? I don't seem to recall that... might have to Google it to refresh my memory.
Edit: googled it. Cant seem to find anything like that from a guy named Drew Doughty
OEL is soooo overrated. I honestly think he'd be less highly thought of in a bigger market. The guy plays like complete crap and no one is aware. that's why I made the thread about small market players sometimes getting overrated. they get 0 criticism.
OEL shouldn't make a top 50 list right now.
Currently, list who you think are the Top 10 NHL defenders in the league. Think of it this way, if you had to arm your team with a d-man for a game tonight...who would be your first 10 choices?
My list:
1)Doughty
2)Pietrangelo
3)Hedman
4)Josi
5)Keith
6)Karlsson
7)Burns
8)Werenksi
9)Parayko
10)Subban
This is a subjective list of who YOU would want, not who may actually be "the best" in the league.
RIGHT NOW. Repeat. RIGHT NOW
1) Doughty. The ultimate shutdown defenseman who can contribute offensively.
2. Pietrangelo. His game has gone to another level since the Shattenkirk trade. Pretty decent sample size now
3. Hedman. The man can control the game, both offensively and defensively
4. Karlsson. Quietly a good season, not as dynamic as recent years. Is it permanent or not?
5. Josi. Supremely underrated as an offensive player, but his defense is somewhat underwhelming relative to other great D.
6. Suter. Minute mucher who may be regressing
7. OEL. Despite being a below average defender, his offensive game is something special.
8. Subban. Quietly becoming a steady defenseman since leaving la belle province
9. Keith. On the decline. An epitomy of the Hawks franchise
10. Vlasic: Your top line will be rendered useless
On the cusp:
Werenski: Offensive dynamo in the making
Provorov: defensive dynamo in the making
Ekholm: nasty, tough and physical. Your dad's shut down D dman
Dahlin: Ya ya im jumping the gun. But anybody with a computer and connection to the internet will tell you that he will be good.
Notable Omissions:
Letang: something's wrong with him right now
Burns: looking like the next Mike Green. That contract WILL be an anchor.
Weber: probably number 11. Still tough, still mean, still effective, but won't be picked over any of the top 10 guys right now
i think youre a little offense heavy, but i see the argumentBased on this season:
Pietrangelo
Hedman
Karlsson
Josi
Doughty
Subban
Jones
Klingberg
Barrie
Ghostisbere
Mostly two way guys at the top who are also having very productive seasons. Then towards the bottom I want guys who can produce a lot of offense from the back end, Klingberg/Barrie/Ghost are 3 of the best this season.
Top 5. To suggest top 30 (in the sense that you think he's closer to that than top 5-10) is just embarrassing on your part.Why is Subban ranked so high in so many folks lists. He has a lotta splash , but as a Dman is he in the top 20? top 30?