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They have to trade them this summer. Too much injury risk and you don't want this circus during the season.
Seravalli: Toffoli will not re-sign in Calgary, wants to be traded
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They have to trade them this summer. Too much injury risk and you don't want this circus during the season.
No they don't lol.
Huberdeau and Kadri can be the tank commanders. Didn;t see the Hawks paying anyone to take Seth Jones or the Stars with Benn and Seguin. Cap space will not be a problem if they go the rebuild route.
I think this more coming from the agents side. Let every team know their clients are looking for a new team and contract
CDN24
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Everyone wants out of Winnipeg and everyone wants out of Calgary - there is a common theme here and it has nothing to do with Canada, cold, taxes etc. There is some disgruntled fan sitting in Atlanta with a couple of voodoo dolls. These teams that moved from Atlanta are cursed.
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Overall I agree with the sentiment of this post. At least you know exactly where you stand if you're Craig Conroy. It'd be worse to have a bunch of discontented players sitting in that locker room.
Usually the boat springs a few leaks before it sinks, but a torpedo right to the bow means you can start rebuilding sooner and with a clearer vision as to what pieces need to go.
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I mean it was just ranked the 7th most livable city in the world?
The city is great, but the winters do suck. I can see why a player would want to spend winters elsewhere. Also the rink is terrible, with the home locker room being worse than most away rooms.
For Toffoli specifically he has been under appreciated in this market since his arrival.
there will a lot of outrage if they do nothing....as a fan of chaos that's kinda what i want to see
BLNY
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Most likely, and I don't know who represents each player, but it's interesting that Seravalli drops these three names before anyone this side of the border right after Conroy takes over. I'd really have to go digging to see how often he scoops his Cdn counterparts on the Flames.
I would agree. The preferable scenario would be to move on this summer. However, that's three sizable trades to try and accomplish before October.
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Nah. Imo whenever there are hockey reasons that explain things, that's the way to go.
Toffoli played for Calgary and re signed for Calgary. So this has nothing to do with the city or the climate.
The Flames gambled big last offseason and lost. Of course these players don't want to re sign when the team is in the tank with no real hope. Plus, it snowballs. Lindholm's non commitment might fuel Toffoli's non commitment and vice versa.
But to give you the most credit possible, we could trace this to even Gaudreau and Tkachuk wanting out, despite winning the division the last season. There, that was a small bit of success after seasons of mediocrity, and it ended badly. Plus those two in particular had well established ties to American roots
Plus I do think a lot of American players were shaken by what happened during Covid. This is a Canadian political issue.
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Toffoli never re-signed in Calgary. Think this contract is still the Montreal is it not?
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Why wouldn’t you? You can make up the lost picks by taking 1-2 year cap dumps with picks. This is a full rebuild for Calgary. Those contracts and those players will only become harder to move when you are ready to compete in 5-7 years.
Andersson is probably the Flames most valuable piece. The cap will be going up and they can ride out the Huberdeau contract.
Kadri + some other teams late 1st sure. Kadri + Flames 1st would be terrible.
Didn't they announce they are getting a new arena? I mean obviously years away, so that doesn't help now. But it could be perfect timing for a rebuild. New faces for the team in a new building.
Who knows, everyone walking could end up being a blessing in disguise
ManofSteel55
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Well, he said he wanted youth and a re-tool, so they probably actually do trust him. They see that he's a man of his word, and isn't going to be competitive next year. Why would any of these guys want to play a year of re-tool/rebuild hockey instead of playing on a team that could be in the playoff mix.
Return before was valued on 2 1/2 years remaining on his deal. He doesn’t fetch in the same ballpark with 1 left
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He'd easily get a late 1st and b prospect at the deadline and the Flames don't need to move him if they don't get something equivalent now.
I think you arrived at the right conclusion in your first sentence, but I don’t think you get the bolded cause right.
The border closing for so long, separating many from their families on the south side for the duration of the pandemic is easily the biggest factor but the border closing was a two-way, mutual agreement between both countries.
I don’t think, generally speaking, this is an issue of mask/vaccine mandates or lockdowns. I really think it boils down to the border and being unable to return to their homes.
Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn’t.
I never said it’s crazy, I’m just not convinced he gets that much. The 28th seems like it’d be enough imo.
Wouldn’t be high on my priorities if I’m the Leafs though to get Toffoli. And I mean that as no disrespect. Limited assets, and bigger needs
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