Confirmed with Link: Toffoli (50% retained) off to Winnipeg for a 2024 3rd and 2025 2nd rounder per Seravalli

[Devils731]

It's a big difference, future picks have less value in trades than current ones.

How big is one year worth?

I agree that draft picks have time value but how many spots is 1 year worth in the second round round? 10? 30? 60?

Im agreeing there is a difference but I don’t think it’s big, imo.

 

[imMagnum]

Ah yes, a 2nd and a 3rd. The Shero special.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Yeah that's a big pile of dung dog.

Is it? Sharangovich isn’t worth a 1st round pick. Toffoli lead our team in goals and then got shipped because we’re out of it.

Also, some of the same people saying he stinks and wrecked our team identity seemingly wanted a boatload for him?

 

[Emperoreddy]

Yeah that's a big pile of dung dog.

It's bad business at the end of the day. Never good when your trade tree goes backwards in value

 

[longislanddevil]

To not at least get a 2024 2nd….its egregious. Henrique netted a first!!!

I’ve been an avid Fitz supporter and his work but my opinion of him has radically changed this year.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

The market is the market. A lot of depressed returns out there this TDL.

Ultimately, he had to get something. Not signing Toffoli to an idiotic deal is the win here.

 

[Mgd31]

For a guy a lot of you wanted off the team, I am surprised you expected a lot.

 

[Devils Trap]

It's bad business at the end of the day. Never good when your trade tree goes backwards in value

How would it go backwards ???

Yegor (last offseason) is NEVER pulling a 2nd round pick himself lol

 

[Better Call Sal]

No one expected us having to be at this point with Toffoli when the deal was made in the summer to begin with.

We figured we'd be in a tight battle for a playoff spot, or have one close to locked up, and we wouldn't have to worry about selling him anyway.

Toffoli held up his end of the bargain by being a productive player. Unfortunately, the team didn't win enough games. The market is what the market is on deadline day. I have a tough time being annoyed by any of this other than we're in this position at all.

 

[Saugus]

To not at least get a 2024 2nd….its egregious. Henrique netted a first!!!

I’ve been an avid Fitz supporter and his work but my opinion of him has radically changed this year.

That was with salary retention, and Henrique is a center. I doubt we're retaining here.

 

[devilsfan950003]

That's not going to be enough to get a goalie worth anything

Remember the devils keep their first rounder since they will miss the playoffs/ECF. So a package of picks could grab a goaltender this offseason.

 

[Devils Trap]

To not at least get a 2024 2nd….its egregious. Henrique netted a first!!!

I’ve been an avid Fitz supporter and his work but my opinion of him has radically changed this year.

Henrique is a Center, that just isn’t the same

 

[longislanddevil]

I'm very skeptical a 2025 2 from Winnipeg was the best offer out there. If it was then you do that deal at 3 PM, not hours before then...you aren't gonna lose out on a 2025 2 by waiting.

It’s mind blowing.

VAN, LA, VEGAS, NYR, BOS were all interested.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Still waiting on the trade ticket

 

[Puckclektr]

To not at least get a 2024 2nd….its egregious. Henrique netted a first!!!

I’ve been an avid Fitz supporter and his work but my opinion of him has radically changed this year.

Well that second is still a pretty good assset to have at the deasline next year.

 

[longislanddevil]

Henrique is a Center, that just isn’t the same

I understand that. But we should have at least gotten back a 2nd this year when you look at the Guentzel haul.

 

[Better Call Sal]

To not at least get a 2024 2nd….its egregious. Henrique netted a first!!!

I’ve been an avid Fitz supporter and his work but my opinion of him has radically changed this year.

Centers have more value, for better or worse.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Is WPG's 2025 2nd worth less than its 2024 2nd? I'm not sure even with time value of draft picks logic. WPG might not be so good in 2025 and I believe this draft is considered shallow.

 

[theoptimist]

Your intro to statistics: CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION

 

[Devils Trap]

Is WPG's 2025 2nd worth less than its 2024 2nd? I'm not sure even with time value of draft picks logic. WPG might not be so good in 2025 and I believe this draft is considered shallow.

My thoughts exactly. We probably think WPG 2nd is better next year tbh

 

[Better Call Sal]

Is WPG's 2025 2nd worth less than its 2024 2nd? I'm not sure even with time value of draft picks logic. WPG might not be so good in 2025 and I believe this draft is considered shallow.

They don't have their own 2nd, they have Montreal's. Which everyone is upset about us not getting because it'd be a higher pick in that round.

I'm not really bent out of shape about it because I simply envision us using whatever extra picks we have as ammo in another deal.

 

[Forge]

Is WPG's 2025 2nd worth less than its 2024 2nd? I'm not sure even with time value of draft picks logic. WPG might not be so good in 2025 and I believe this draft is considered shallow.

They don't have their own 24 second. They have Montreal's 24 second, which is goingn to be a very good pick. The 25 second definitely going to be worth significantly less.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I mean, Guentzel didn’t even get a first at the end of the day. Should have just made it a conditional first if the Jets win the cup, same likelihood as the Canes lol.

 

[Blackjack]

Ugh

 

[NJDevs26]

Is WPG's 2025 2nd worth less than its 2024 2nd? I'm not sure even with time value of draft picks logic. WPG might not be so good in 2025 and I believe this draft is considered shallow.

Why would anyone think that when they've signed Helle and other guys longer term, hell they might even try and sign Toffoli long term. They're firmly a win-now team for the next couple years, one year isn't gonna be a big difference unless Helle gets injured or some shit like that next year.