Todd Reirden says T.J. Oshie will be out a while | No suspension for Warren Foegele

[Copenhagen91]

Wasn’t a violent shove or an intent to injure. Was just a bad play and Oshie was in a bad position and hit the board awkwardly. 2 mins was more than enough.

Really doesn’t matter, I learned when I was 8 years old playing minor hockey that you can’t hit players from behind into the boards. I learned because I did it, now 8 year old me couldn’t have injured anything yet I was still given a game misconduct. Why is it different for a fully grown man who’s played the game his entire life with the strength to cause harm? He hit Oshie from behind into the boards. It’s pretty black and white.

 

[Sam Spade]

Canes lost Jordan Martinook in the 1st on a similar unfortunate crash into the boards. Bad luck.

What? Martinook tried to check Orlov, Orlov check up, Martinook went into the boards hard. Orlov barely, if at all, touched him as he went flying by.

 

[clydesdale line]

Definitely would say collarbone. Reminded me when McDavid and Kane broke theirs similarly.

 

[Ezekial]

A broken collarbone will do that.

 

[Roksta]

It looks like a light tap but Foegele is too strong and can’t control his strength

 

[txpd]

Caps fans remember these kind of things

 

[Chan790]

I doubt we see a suspension come of it, that's a 10-times-a-game play that almost 100% certain doesn't get called if Oshie gets up.

There have been plenty of debateable calls and non-calls in this series favoring and disfavoring both sides; I wouldn't be surprised if Foegele gets a stern talking to, but more onus needs to go to frankly-mediocre officiating (I get "swallowing the whistle" because the refs and the NHL don't want officiating seemingly deciding games...but non-calls have let to dangerous liberty-taking even before Oshie was hurt) and I think the officials get "a talk" before Saturday.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Pull up on youtube the Ovechkin hit on then Blackhawks Brian Campbell back in 2010. Very similar hit/situation. Ovechkin got a game misconduct on that one and a two game suspension. We'll see what what if anything DOPS does in this matter.

 

[illpucks]

I doubt we see a suspension come of it, that's a 10-times-a-game play that almost 100% certain doesn't get called if Oshie gets up.

There have been plenty of debateable calls and non-calls in this series favoring and disfavoring both sides; I wouldn't be surprised if Foegele gets a stern talking to, but more onus needs to go to frankly-mediocre officiating (I get "swallowing the whistle" because the refs and the NHL don't want officiating seemingly deciding games...but non-calls have let to dangerous liberty-taking even before Oshie was hurt) and I think the officials get "a talk" before Saturday.

If they don't suspend him, he's going to have a meeting with Wilson, and the NHL doesn't want that so they might factor that in so they can control the series.

 

[McClelland]

My prediction is Oshie is done for the year with a broken collarbone.

Canes take game 5 and 6, then he only misses 2 games! Probably meant that!

 

[Tryamw]

Another view.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Oshie will be a big loss. But it will let Tom Wilson go on PP1 where he could be an upgrade.
Second line will likely be Vrana Kuz Hags. Which is our 3 fastest players .
4th line looks horrible now and DSP needs to be called up ASAP

 

[hirawl]

A minor penalty is what this is. Just a slight push with some unfortunate results.

 

[nothingbeatshockey]

The problem with DOPS all along has been that they tend to base the penalty [suspension/fine/etc] on the outcome and not the action. You have really bad hits where the player isn’t hurt that barely draws the attention of DOPS. Here you have a crosscheck to the back of a player near the boards that wasn’t particularly vicious, but had a bad outcome. So, the DOPS should suspend if the outcome matters. Which is ridiculous and I’ve said it over and over - you suspend based on the action, not the outcome.

 

[Joey Moss]

A minor penalty is what this is. Just a slight push with some unfortunate results.

It's a dirty play. It's not a slight push.

Brind'Amour would be crying about it if it was one of his top 6 players.

 

[Blue and Green]

Best thing so far in this thread is the post with the tweet that referred to it as a "viscous" crosscheck. I want a minimum 2-game suspension for any hit that resembles a light motor oil and 5 or more games for a real corn syrup type of hit. You can't allow that type of resistance to flow.

This looks like more of a watery hit to me so I don't think any suspension is forthcoming.

 

[Stopsight]

Foegele needs to be suspended for having the twitter handle @foegdaddy

 

[Tryamw]

And unfortunately I think Oshie made it worse for himself by attempting to play the puck after (the hit) with his hand..

 

[RVACapsFan]

If Ovi or Wilson did this people would be calling for the guillotine. Would be nice to see the NHL stand up for the Caps for once, but I wont hold my breath.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Caps fans remember these kind of things

As a neutral fan, the hits aren’t remotely comparable. Ovechkin loaded up and launched him into the boards. This play was stupid, but nowhere near the level of intent.

 

[Chan790]

If they don't suspend him, he's going to have a meeting with Wilson, and the NHL doesn't want that so they might factor that in so they can control the series.

I fully expect that the officiating gets a talking to, the calls tighten up, and both teams get admonished before the puck drops that anything like "A talk from Mr. Wilson" or other continued shenanigans will be dealt with harshly.

 

[Buffalo Preds]

Really doesn’t matter, I learned when I was 8 years old playing minor hockey that you can’t hit players from behind into the boards. I learned because I did it, now 8 year old me couldn’t have injured anything yet I was still given a game misconduct. Why is it different for a fully grown man who’s played the game his entire life with the strength to cause harm? He hit Oshie from behind into the boards. It’s pretty black and white.

Thanks for noting that. You get coached on this when you’re a kid, and refs will call you for it every time, because hitting someone who is square with the wall in the numbers is dangerous. Fans who never played might not think it looks like much because it’s often a low speed hit with space between the opponent and the wall, but if a skater gets hit like that, there is very little they can do to stop before hitting the boards with their head or shoulder. Trying to turn out of it means you may be increasing the force on your shoulder/collarbone because of angular momentum.

 

[CapnZin]

DoPS is taking a look at the hit:

Whenever a player gets injured in a game, being a penalty on the play too, the DoPS takes a look every time.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Sucks he got injured, but I don’t see a suspension there. I don’t think there’s even a penalty on that without the injury.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Nothing more than a 2 minute minor, and it's telling no one can offer a contrary interpretation beyond counterfactuals.