Tippett's Performance as Head Coach
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Other coaches, like NJ's Hynes, have taken crap rosters and performed the Tippett turnaround with them. Coaches have a shelf life. Tippett is past his.
RemoAZ
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Unless he quits, he is here for the next half decade. No way they are swallowing that contract. Not a chance.
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When has he demonstrated any ability to evaluate players? He's even less of a fit for the front officer than he is a coach.
I'm reminded of how everyone outside the IA bubble took a moment to laugh at how enamored they were with Tippett when this news broke.
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Just before they renewed his contract would have been the time to do it. I think he'll be with us at least for the remainder of this season. If no improvement, then maybe, just MAYBE, he'll be replaced.
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The issue is that every coach who plays a specific system automatically produces a set of diminishing returns. As soon as other teams scout and analyze his system, they can exploit it - and if he remains rigidly attached to it, then his team is easily picked apart on the ice.
Now, I don't know for sure if Tippett has stuck with "his" system the whole time he's been here or what, but common sense indicates that both the familiarity of how the Coyotes play along with the increasing ease with which opponents exploit us are signs that either his system or his coaches' have lost their effectiveness. Remember when Newell Brown took over the power play? For a while it was the only thing we were doing really well, but over time it has steadily diminished in effectiveness.
Tippett keeps talking about execution, execution, execution. Well, even the most perfectly-executed system is prone to exploitation if the other team can predict and adjust for it. Domi and Duclair prospered the most last year when they went "off-script" and let their innate talent dictate the play. I think that if we really have good prospects in the system like everyone tells us we do, we need to give them freedom to create plays rather than force them into a tiny shoebox.
Now, I don't know for sure if Tippett has stuck with "his" system the whole time he's been here or what, but common sense indicates that both the familiarity of how the Coyotes play along with the increasing ease with which opponents exploit us are signs that either his system or his coaches' have lost their effectiveness. Remember when Newell Brown took over the power play? For a while it was the only thing we were doing really well, but over time it has steadily diminished in effectiveness.
Tippett keeps talking about execution, execution, execution. Well, even the most perfectly-executed system is prone to exploitation if the other team can predict and adjust for it. Domi and Duclair prospered the most last year when they went "off-script" and let their innate talent dictate the play. I think that if we really have good prospects in the system like everyone tells us we do, we need to give them freedom to create plays rather than force them into a tiny shoebox.
They needed to clean house and go in a new direction when they hued Chayka.
Now with his new contract we are undoubtedly stuck with Tippett. The only chance he is fired is if his contract is structured do that the Coyotes don't have to pay him if he gets re hired. He would not be unemployed long.
Now with his new contract we are undoubtedly stuck with Tippett. The only chance he is fired is if his contract is structured do that the Coyotes don't have to pay him if he gets re hired. He would not be unemployed long.
rt
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The funny thing is that they didn't have to extend him. He was still under contract this season. Thy could've just went the "wait and see" route. Which after four consecutive bed ******** seasons would've been perfectly reasonable. But instead they promoted him, extended him for half a decade, and let him extend al of his lackeys too. It's going to cost a fortune to cut out this boil. When we easily could've just let them all walk away for free this summer.
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The big problem is that Gary Drummond is the VP of hockey ops as well as being the string-pulling owner, and John Chayka is still a couple of years away from his thirties. Drummond doesn't have the knowledge and Chayka doesn't have the built-up capital yet to oust Tippett, even if they wanted to.
And the owners don't want to. They had a hard enough time trying to find a GM to replace Maloney (and they couldn't hire an assistant GM at all), so the prospect of making a coaching change is anathema to them. They got sold a bill of goods that Tippett is one of the best coaches of all time, based almost completely on what happened between coaching his first game in AZ to the end of 2012. They further believe that the team's issues on ice are caused by budget rather than by system.
I really wanted to believe that with the tremendous job of stockpiling the system that Chayka has done, we'd be set for a progressively-improving team that one day would be a true Cup contender. I can't believe that anymore, and it would take a miracle of epic proportions for Tippett and co. to convince me otherwise.
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In an ideal world, Tippett would be fired. I don't think he's the right coach at all to help develop Strome, he's constantly shuffling lines, he doesn't actually give ice time based on performance like he claims (ie: Gologoski is still on the second pairing, and Chychrun the third), and his defensive system hasn't been effective for us in years.
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To be fair...
I don't think his career stats with Dallas or even Arizona should be equally weighted with the last five consecutive years of suck.
Vrbata is getting disproportionately dumped on, imo. Should we look at Vrbata's career stats and decide to extend him five or six years?
More to the point, I believe Tippet could still be a successful coach somewhere, but that will not be here.
On the other hand...
Doesn't include lockout shortened year with 21 wins and .44 win %. Which is bad, but still one of the statistically stronger years of late. Another sub .500 year for the slide on the chart.
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He won't be fired this season. They have to ride it out. Too much money and pride at stake. We'll get the revisionist "We anticipated underperforming this year. It's a long process, etc, etc"
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