Sportsnet: Tim and Sid Thread
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yeah, watched that last night..epic.
I think this is the kind of stuff moving forward that we need to see more of if we have any hope of having the NHL step in and make a change as far as Melnyk is concerned.
I think this is the kind of stuff moving forward that we need to see more of if we have any hope of having the NHL step in and make a change as far as Melnyk is concerned.
AchtzehnBaby
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As they said, I am sure it is happening now. How much the league can do is very critical.
I am sure the NHL has been in there since the Lebreton mediation.
solidprospect
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Something happened between last game and yesterday's practice. Dorion did say a few weeks ago that he thought it was unfair to rate coaches performance mid season but here we are.
NorthCoast
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Somewhat related question.
How far below the cap floor would actual salaries have to get before the league deemed it cap circumvention?
) No Club or Club Actor, directly or indirectly, may: (i) enter into any agreements, promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind, whether express, implied, oral or written, including without limitation, any SPC, Qualifying Offer, Offer Sheet or other transaction, or (ii) take or fail to take any action whatsoever, if either (i) or (ii) is intended to or has the effect of defeating or Circumventing the provisions of this Agreement or the intention of the parties as reflected by the provisions of this Agreement, including without limitation, provisions with respect to the financial and other reporting obligations of the Clubs and the League, Team Payroll Range, Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System, the Entry Level System and/or Free Agency.
If we start buying up insured contracts and roll out a team that costs 45 mil on a 60 mil cap floor is that circumvention?
How far below the cap floor would actual salaries have to get before the league deemed it cap circumvention?
) No Club or Club Actor, directly or indirectly, may: (i) enter into any agreements, promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind, whether express, implied, oral or written, including without limitation, any SPC, Qualifying Offer, Offer Sheet or other transaction, or (ii) take or fail to take any action whatsoever, if either (i) or (ii) is intended to or has the effect of defeating or Circumventing the provisions of this Agreement or the intention of the parties as reflected by the provisions of this Agreement, including without limitation, provisions with respect to the financial and other reporting obligations of the Clubs and the League, Team Payroll Range, Player Compensation Cost Redistribution System, the Entry Level System and/or Free Agency.
If we start buying up insured contracts and roll out a team that costs 45 mil on a 60 mil cap floor is that circumvention?
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Probably just Melnyk stepping in. He was probably drunk in Barbados and called up Dorion telling him to fire Boucher.
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People involved in the SNC lavalein scandal look at what's going on with the senators and be like I want no part of this mess...
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Great rant from Sid.
I wish he would have completely let loose.
It seems sportsnet has taken the gloves off. Maybe they finally realize, like a lot of other media should, that you won’t get anything of value in the limited access the Sens are offering in exchange for not criticizing.
All the official breaking stuff comes from Garrioch and they don’t really give other interviews so what is there to lose?
Speaking of Garrioch, I think at this point he should turn in his credentials and just become director of comms for the Sens. What he’s doing is not journalism.
Arizona has been doing it for years. That won’t be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
I mean they traded for Pronger’s contract even though he was working at the league office at the time.
I wish he would have completely let loose.
It seems sportsnet has taken the gloves off. Maybe they finally realize, like a lot of other media should, that you won’t get anything of value in the limited access the Sens are offering in exchange for not criticizing.
All the official breaking stuff comes from Garrioch and they don’t really give other interviews so what is there to lose?
Speaking of Garrioch, I think at this point he should turn in his credentials and just become director of comms for the Sens. What he’s doing is not journalism.
Arizona has been doing it for years. That won’t be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
I mean they traded for Pronger’s contract even though he was working at the league office at the time.
RedWhiteBlackGold
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I enjoyed this piece and agree Bettman has got to be involved by now if he wasn't already during the Lebreton mediation.
I got to think the only scenario is they got a buyer on hold until after the Seattle expansion. Worst case scenario is relocation but I can't imagine Bettman wants Melnyk involved with any team whatsoever after this.
Edit: On another note, the Lebreton talks have been tame compared to the recent changes, although I guess we had some time to expect the deal was off the table. Melnyk just giving us something else to focus on.
I got to think the only scenario is they got a buyer on hold until after the Seattle expansion. Worst case scenario is relocation but I can't imagine Bettman wants Melnyk involved with any team whatsoever after this.
Edit: On another note, the Lebreton talks have been tame compared to the recent changes, although I guess we had some time to expect the deal was off the table. Melnyk just giving us something else to focus on.
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Do Make Say Think
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These are juncture points where how much people like you matter. Everyone involved in the NHL wants Arizona to succeed, so they'll let things like that slide.
Nobody likes Melnyk, so maybe people don't turn a blind eye.
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Why did they read a piece where they claimed Garrioch was one of the most respected writers in Ottawa? Who the hell respects Garrioch here?
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I avoided these guys like the plague for that reason, but once you start watching you realize Tim and Sid are actually hilarious. They usually have an unbiased view on things
AchtzehnBaby
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Defintely. Here's my guess on what went down:
Dorion enters the room and berates players saying they can do better and stop making excuses.
Boucher stands up for the players and says "Excuses!?! How do you want us to win with a team that was decimated at the trade deadline? You made those moves, Pierre! You should have planned better! You come in here looking to deflect the blame!? Go shuffle up a gum tree, you ignorant fool!
Walking papers given.
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At this point, every media outlet across the country except the Sun has taken the gloves off.
As far as I can tell, the only guy who refuses to report the obvious is Garrioch.
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If that transpired it would be odd for Anderson to kind of throw Boucher under the bus after he got fired.
So the guys who have spent years shitting on the Senators are shitting on the Senators? What a shock.
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I certainly didn't notice a big rush of guys saying how much they loved Boucher and how sorry they are that he got canned. I kind of thought that Andy might do that, but he definitely didn't.
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