Friedman: Thinks Zadorov will price himself out of Vancouver.
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Brock Boeser Laser Show
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3rd pairing guy. Wouldn't really want to pay more than 4 million since he doesn't provide a ton of offense and isn't really a shutdown defenseman.
You can probably get what he provides at a cheaper cost.
You can probably get what he provides at a cheaper cost.
Fogelhund
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He could.. but then this team really doesn't need a lineup of all Left Handed D....
He's going to price himself out of Vancouver. Just like Miller and just like Pettersson.
While he has been great for us, beside Hughes mostly, he's not worth what Hughes or Miller have gotten for us, and I don't feel should be in the same conversation for salary/cap consideration.
I hope he stays, but if Friedman is right and not just talking with nothing to back it up (see the previous two, and Vancouver/Horvat not being considered until the bitter end), I'd be fine trading him. Great player for us, but not irreplacable.
While he has been great for us, beside Hughes mostly, he's not worth what Hughes or Miller have gotten for us, and I don't feel should be in the same conversation for salary/cap consideration.
I hope he stays, but if Friedman is right and not just talking with nothing to back it up (see the previous two, and Vancouver/Horvat not being considered until the bitter end), I'd be fine trading him. Great player for us, but not irreplacable.
ManofSteel55
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Judging by his past contracts and the fact that he has been traded a number of times, it seems that NHL GM's also believe he is better than he actually is. It only takes one stupid GM to overpay a player, and I suspect that this is the type of player who will have 2 or 3 GM's (at least) with stupid contracts for Zadorov. He's the prototypical "bottom 4 who thinks he is a top 4" defenseman, and some desperate GM will give him what he wants, and find out later that it was a mistake.
Unless he signs for cheap which he won't I'm fine with him leaving.
I have a lot of faith in Alvin and his staff to make sure our defense continues to improve.
EP2 , and Willander are nice internal adds going forward and between UFA and trades, I expect we see him add two better options than Zadorov who Is a good#5-6 but isn't a top 4 guy.
I prefer Myers of him and Cole and hope he re-signs for 2-3 million.
I don’t think being a fan is nearly as important as growing up in a city. Family for the wife to help raise kids etc.
I’m pretty sure Marchand was a leafs fan duchene loved Colorado.
Most players who go back to their “hometown team” rather than their “childhood team”.
Man Bear Pig
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He's big, physical and can skate. Someone is going to overpay this summer for him, he's going to get #2/#3 type money and he's just not that guy.
He will get overpaid, overused and some teams fanbase will not be happy.
He's done well in Vancouver because he's being used properly and we have an excellent staff and structure.
If he goes to a team like the leafs and is used as a top four guy, it's gonna be a Trainwreck.
Jared Dunn
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I don't know about that he's been around long enough that I think teams understand his limitations but could definitely see him getting the Ryan Graves contract, maybe a year less at a bit more money. Realistically he shouldn't get much of a raise from what he's currently making
On his 5th NHL team and never been close to averaging 20 min on any of them. I think words out that he's a bottom pair guy, maybe a #4 in a pinch.
I highly doubt he'll get the contract he wants. Maybe he'd do a higher AAV 1 year contract though, he's the type to bet on himself.
I highly doubt he'll get the contract he wants. Maybe he'd do a higher AAV 1 year contract though, he's the type to bet on himself.
Bourne Endeavor
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Been saying this for a while. He supposedly demanded 5x5 from the Flames and I doubt that's changed much for the Canucks. He absolutely sees himself as a solid #3 if not a #2 and he just isn't by any stretch of the imagination.
I'd love to bring him back but I'd struggle to go above 4M and have zero interest at 4.5M or higher.
I'd love to bring him back but I'd struggle to go above 4M and have zero interest at 4.5M or higher.
In a world where Gudbranson makes 4mil, and Myers makes 6mil, I’m not sure you’re right. I think someone is gonna overpay him, I hope it’s not Vancouver. I like the guy, we just can’t afford to overpay guys right now.
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I agree. Just saying I think anyone offering long term at 5M is crazy. If someone offered 2 years at 5M it's not.
Offer of 4 x $4M?
A year before Simashiv and But sign 3 year ELCs, and hopefully we'll sign Duda in MAY.
I’m going to say he re signs for a couple reasons.
1. Rutherford and Allvin were interested in him since the 2023 deadline and there was reported interest for him during the summer.
2. His agent Dan Milstein and Allvin have a tight relationship.
3. Zadorov has expressed his desire to win now. He’s a competitive guy, I highly doubt he goes and signs a mega contract on a bottom feeder team which realistically are the only types of team that could give him an inflated contract.
4. He’s already established himself as a locker room guy and the players absolutely love him.
5. He has said Vancouver’s hospitality, coaching staff, and support system is the best thing he’s ever been apart of.
There’s also his comments the other day saying he’d take Mackinnon over Matthews and while that’s not really an actual reason for him not to sign with Toronto it is still worth mentioning.
I think what we’ll see is he re signs at $4M for 5 or 6 years. Personally, I’m fine with that figure. He’ll be $1M overpaid, but he will be a #5 mainstay for the Canucks, and if shit ever hits the fan like good ol Canucks fashion, there will be takers for Zadorov at his full cap hit. Monstrous guys like him that can skate with pace are a unicorn and GM’s will certainly pay up to get him in a rising cap world.
1. Rutherford and Allvin were interested in him since the 2023 deadline and there was reported interest for him during the summer.
2. His agent Dan Milstein and Allvin have a tight relationship.
3. Zadorov has expressed his desire to win now. He’s a competitive guy, I highly doubt he goes and signs a mega contract on a bottom feeder team which realistically are the only types of team that could give him an inflated contract.
4. He’s already established himself as a locker room guy and the players absolutely love him.
5. He has said Vancouver’s hospitality, coaching staff, and support system is the best thing he’s ever been apart of.
There’s also his comments the other day saying he’d take Mackinnon over Matthews and while that’s not really an actual reason for him not to sign with Toronto it is still worth mentioning.
I think what we’ll see is he re signs at $4M for 5 or 6 years. Personally, I’m fine with that figure. He’ll be $1M overpaid, but he will be a #5 mainstay for the Canucks, and if shit ever hits the fan like good ol Canucks fashion, there will be takers for Zadorov at his full cap hit. Monstrous guys like him that can skate with pace are a unicorn and GM’s will certainly pay up to get him in a rising cap world.
I like him and all, but he's a #5 on a good team and he probably believes he can play a bigger role. With his unique blend of size, toughness, skating and the occasional burst of offense he will surely be given a pretty sizeable contract, I can't imagine him coming in at less than 5x5. He's the kind of player good teams say goodbye and good luck to at the end of their contract.
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