Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 2, More Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions: Say It Like You Mean It
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BernieParent
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In my always inexpert opinion, it would seem to be a waste to expend assets to move up in this draft unless you are going to top 3. Just make the pick at 12 because there should be a very talented player left there. Also, please don't pick for type or fit with the Panthers' choice.
Scratch that; use the Flahr's fiht pick as draft capital to move up. May as well.
Chicken N Raffls
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I like this thinking. Trade Danny's 3rd this year and 2nd next year for Flahr's 1st this year. Then package Danny's 2nd this year with the newly acquired 1st from Flahr to move up a few spots and take BPA.
usahockey22flyers
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From what I was previously told on this board, Bettman blocked the KHL/NHL partnerships and “transfer fee agreements”?
I know MLS has done the same with the Russian Prem League. FC Dallas had an agreement in place to sell Jesus Ferreira for a big fee, club, and player agreed - I think to a Champions League level club, and MLS said “you can’t do business with them”.
I know MLS has done the same with the Russian Prem League. FC Dallas had an agreement in place to sell Jesus Ferreira for a big fee, club, and player agreed - I think to a Champions League level club, and MLS said “you can’t do business with them”.
I think with the current world dynamic any sports league is not doing cash transactions to send players either way with any Russian team. Contracts will be waited out before the players can move between leagues.
Larry44
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I don't know, frankly. I guess is depends what the league would say if the Flyers made the proposition.
Remember all of these other players were on expiring contracts or were under contract to the NHL club.
I think for optics of legality it has to appear that the player negotiated the buyout with the KHL club, the team cannot appear to have anything to do with it.
Atkinson's situation is mostly irrelevant next season, I think. There's a certain sunk cap cost for him...which is only a small of the total Flyer's already sunk-cap cost...so whatever happens to him, it can certainly be viewed from the Flyers viewpoint as "whatever the best fit is, without spending any more cap."
So buy-out seems pointless. Forced to play wherever the Flyers deem suitable seems likely. LTIR'd into cap assets seems fairly reasonable, doesn't every player at that age have sufficient injuries to warrant being LTIR'd? They're professional hockey players after all....if Kucherov and Stone(x2) can do it, Atkinson certainly has it in him. Hell, Ellis only needed 5 games to manage a career-ending story, for a team that wanted him to play! Atkinson can manage that for a team that doesn't want him to play..
GKJ
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A buyout is not pointless if you don’t want him here. That’s never a good situation. Kucherov and Stone can do it because they’re very important players. Atkinson is not. You’re not against the cap, so it’s fine to use it, the cap hits don’t hurt you.
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Atkinson isn't just going to go on LTIR for the hell of it. If he's healthy to play, he'll want to play regardless of how bad he plays because he isn't just going to leave millions on the table and retire because fans don't want him here.
LegionOfDoom91
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Didn’t the tone from Atkinson at his end of the year presser basically have that as someone who knows they’re not going to be here next year? If so a buyout is the only way that happens.
Chicken N Raffls
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Normally my philosophy is "Better to ask for forgiveness than permission." But with Russia involved....perhaps not.
makes sense. but I don't think 25-26 cap hits is worth getting rid of Cam Atkinson re culture considerations.
I agree. He has one season of salary left to be paid, whatever happens to him.
But don't confuse LTIR with not getting his money. He gets his FLyer money in that case, going on LTIR...are you suggesting something different? Like, if he suggests he's an LTIR candidate, his NEXT contract is a worry?
Whatever. Atkinson is boxed in. He'll do whatever the Flyers say he should do.
Beef Invictus
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Freeing his cap space gives the team room to do something worse. That's a concern.
GKJ
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Chicken N Raffls
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I was just thinking, what grizzled vet will we get to replace him? Because it won't be someone like Lycksell. That's too easy. Doing things the hard way is more honest.
Well flyers bought out Weise just to give him an option to find a better fit and continue his nhl career, so you never know what sort of idiocy is gonna happen.
BringBackHakstol
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You aren't competing in 2025 so who cares to just keep him in the roster? Then you are done with it
GKJ
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I already answered. You were asked the question. Why do you care about 2025-2026's cap number so much?
Because both team and player believe it mutually beneficial to move on.
And it is. He does not have a spot here. And he does not want to end his career. It's time for him to go.
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GKJ
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Because he is totally cooked. He doesn't have a place in the lineup.
usahockey22flyers
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I think the argument here is to get him out so you can see Brink every night, Lycksell etc etc
BringBackHakstol
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Except we know we'll be seeing veterans because that's what they do every year
