SLake said:
Listen, I love going to hockey games. It's my favorite. But I only support an organization that I can respect. If that happens, I'll go to every game and bring people along even, sure.
Listen, I love going to hockey games. It's my favorite. But I only support an organization that I can respect. If that happens, I'll go to every game and bring people along even, sure.
Seth Lake
Registered User
jet228 said:
I would refer to you as ill-informed, or as was later posted, you simply mis-remembered.
Sorry, misspoke myself on the name. Regarding the quote of "I would look into it", that does not mean he is interested in actually buying a team and relocating one to Winnipeg. It could have simply been a PR statement, or he could find out that it is not feasable and decide not to buy a team.
Scott Taylor is not all that reputable, especially in this instance. He has been pushing for a Jets return for some time, and has become rather idealistic in his writings. Also, the suggestion of a sportswriter is not a statement of fact.
I would hope it is nicer, given the Saddledome is 22 years old now.
To jog your memory:Resolute said:
Resolute said:
Rationalize it all you want, but this is a quote indicates an interest, albeit a qualified one. Whether he goes through with it or not is another matter, this quote publicly expresses an interest, which is all you asked for. Ask and ye shall receivejamiebez said:
And stating that it's "just a PR statement" based on this quote alone is equally as speculative as him those who list him as a possible owner.
jamiebez said:
It probably is a PR statement. He basically said he'll look into, but that doesn't mean squat until someone steps up. For example the rockets' owner les alexander has been nagging bettman and has been quoted saying "We're trying" and the other group in Kansas city saying "There is no reason why the Penguins can't be the Kansas City penguins."
That shows a genuine interest where as the stuff that is comming from Izzy Aspers' son is like what a Dad tells his son who desperately wants a new toy. "We'll see son..."
jamiebez said:To jog your memory:
"I'd probably have some interest in exploring the feasibility of it" - David Asper
Rationalize it all you want, but this is a quote indicates an interest, albeit a qualified one. Whether he goes through with it or not is another matter, this quote publicly expresses an interest, which is all you asked for. Ask and ye shall receive
And stating that it's "just a PR statement" based on this quote alone is equally as speculative as him those who list him as a possible owner.
"Interest" can mean a lot of things though. I recall in the latter years of Peter Puck's reign there was a supposed group of 4-5 major oil companies that were going to purchase the Oilers and be sponsors of then Northlands Coliseum. The group definitely had the resources to buy the Oilers but in the end it never happened. My impression of Asper’s quote is that while he’s not absolutely ruling out the possibility of having some interest in an NHL franchise for Winnipeg, he’s not exactly the "knight in shining amour" that’s going to bring back NHL hockey to Winnipeg the first opportunity a franchise becomes available.
Squiddy said:
Not to discuss the TV rights and skybox sales of a club that doesn't even exist yet. I'm more interested in talking about hockey.GWhale said:
And how do you suppose Hartford is going to attract a NHL team without those two very important things?
That's a fair interpretation of it, and for what it's worth, I don't disagree. No one's saying Asper's buying the Blues tomorrow and moving them to Winnipeg, but based on the quote I posted, it's within the realm of possibility that he would be involved in some way in bringing the NHL back to Winnipeg.MuzikMachine said:
And that's really all I'm saying. It's all speculation, and your interpretation is as valid as anyone else's until some actual facts come to light. It's equally as credible to say "he's a possible buyer" than it is to say "it's just a PR statement" based on one quote.
Squiddy said:
Sure, why not. Do you even like hockey, or just talking about money? Do you follow the sport or do you just enjoy speculating on that crap? Do you think the owner of your favorite club, if you even have one, wouldn't laugh out loud if they saw your rantings?
"Do you even like hockey, or just talking about money?"GWhale said:
I love hockey and money...
"Do you follow the sport or do you just enjoy speculating on that crap?"
Yes I follow the sport and I speculate on things... Why not? I'm using both the left and right side of my brain. Considering my career path leads to similarities of running a franchise.. why not?
"Do you think the owner of your favorite club, if you even have one, wouldn't laugh out loud if they saw your rantings?"
Do you think gary bettman and the current NHL owners aren't laughing at you for your rants? Furthermore, I doubt Mr Dolan cares about what I think, but I'm pretty sure Mr Karmanos is laughing at a person such as yourself.
Petty name calling is the first sign of desperation.
HansH
Unwelcome Spectre
Have you noticed the name of this forum? THE BUSINESS OF HOCKEY. You're in the place where the discussion are about the business -- the thing that makes it possible for fans to pay their money to have a team to see in the first place. It's fine if all you want to do is talk hockey -- there's plenty of forums here or on other boards to talk about the game on the ice. But if you want to talk about Hartford getting an NHL team, you HAVE to talk about the business side, or you're just another whiner who won't learn the reasons that the NHL isn't there now, and won't have any other conversation about the NHL and your city other than "gimmegimmegimmegimmegimmeIDESERVEIT!!". The owner of my team would pay a lot more sense to my discussion of the business realities of the NHL than he EVER would to you talking about Ron Francis -- because it's how he sees the sport. As a business.GWhale said:
I love the game. It's because of my love for the game that I got interested in the business -- I wanted to know why teams folded, moved, or were added to the minor league in my town. And along the way, I learned to appreciate a drop pass and a one timer as much as I appreciate a logical alignment and playoff scheme, and as much as I appreciate LOGICAL discussions about the future of the game, the sport, and the business.
So, your rantings are the ones that would make owners laugh, frankly. Can't stand the business talk? Then get out of the business forum.
jamiebez said:To jog your memory:
Rationalize it all you want, but this is a quote indicates an interest, albeit a qualified one. Whether he goes through with it or not is another matter, this quote publicly expresses an interest, which is all you asked for. Ask and ye shall receive
And stating that it's "just a PR statement" based on this quote alone is equally as speculative as him those who list him as a possible owner.
Agreed. However, I stated that that option was speculative. For a lot of the jetsowner people, that someone like Asper will step up is assumed.
As far as the rest goes, I should have qualified my question as asking for someone who expressed serious (real) interest, but did not, so I have to yield that point.
GWhale said:
In that case, you are in the wrong forum. Hartford has to show it is viable in the buisness of hockey before the skates will be laced up to play the game of hockey.
The financial aspects of the buisness - such as potential for luxury boxes and TV rights are of key importance to the viability of an NHL team in Hartford.
My rantings are not the ones the owners would laugh at. If more people thought like I did, the owners would be terrified. They wouldn't be able to threaten the fans to get more sales, what a wonderful thing to lose. And people wonder why attendance was low in Hartford for a couple years. New Englanders don't take the crap that others might.
Majik1987
I know kung fu...
GWhale said:
..and hence lost their team. I guess I applaud your resolve, but it seems like more of a cut off your nose to spite your face kind of move.
GWhale said:
OR...
Not many people care about the whalers in NE? Perhaps YOUR love for the whalers is blinding you of the truth that the Bruins were the pride and joy of NE pro hockey and the whalers were nothing but the ugly stepchild with warts?
Troy McClure
Suter will never be scratched
I guess you're right. Unlike you tough New Englanders, I just bent over and took it by handing over all my hard earned money. Sure, I got to watch the Cup get paraded through downtown. And sure, I got to drink beer out of the Cup while reading names off it for a few hours at a tiny dive bar. But, I'd sure rather have your strong ethics and memories of a team that is gone and will never return. Because you really showed those guys at the NHL. You're the real winner.GWhale said:
Majik1987 said:
I attended nearly every game in those final years. I regret it, though. It felt like I was spending money to save a sinking ship already submerged. I had good times, but it was nothing like when the Whalers were run well, and I only added money into Peter Karmanos' scum pockets. He only bought the team, at its lowest, to move it. Everyone knew it. People can say Hartford never supported its team and whatnot, which isn't true at all, but you have to look at how simply dreadful the last few years were, on and especially off the ice.
Troy McClure
Suter will never be scratched
Actually, that's the first time I've ever brought it up. It was tons of fun, but I never had a reason to mention it before now where it seemed like a good opportunity to mock a bitter Whalers fan who thinks he's a better person because he doesn't give money to the NHL. You don't take that crap. Good for you. The rest of us will just keep enjoying our NHL hockey.GWhale said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say about 90% of this thread should be enshrined.... Or at least lock-proofed.futurcorerock said:
The mods must be in very good spirits after the New Year.
Troy McClure said:
Not to sound sarcastic or anything, but since when was there a Stanley Cup parade in New England? Did this happen in the 70's or when Bourque brought the cup back after winning it in Colorado?
