The Rebuilding of the C of Red - Rebuilding Thread

[Ace Rimmer]

It was in Feaster's press conference.

This is the worst.

Hey great.

Surely that's possible after losing your top forward and top defenseman via trade, and your top goalie via retirement.

 

[TheHudlinator]

It was in Feaster's press conference.

This is the worst.

Well we now have all the proof we could ever need to know the owners are truly the problem.

 

[hyster110]

oilers fan coming in peace, coming in peace


im not going to knock the deals feaster did, they have been done to death, but what is the plan going forward with calgary? they have 3 firsts this year but are they just expecting them to come in right away and help? the compete for the playoff attitude murray edwards is portraying just seems to me that he doesnt grasp where the team is, your probably not going to have to rebuild as long as edmonton (3 years) cause you did have stars to start with. i want to know what flames fans thing is going to happen over the next few month when it comes to free agency and going forward

 

[Svenner]

Feaster was just on the Fan 960 and spoke on that comment, and explained that the whole "making the playoffs next year" comment is basically the organization letting players know they get no free pass and expect every player who plays here to compete like they were trying to make the playoffs. Doesn't sound like they're bailing on the rebuild by any means or like they're planing on going after "win-now" players.

The way Feaster said it, it does sound that way. He said that Edwards told him he expects them to be in the playoffs next year. Sounds to me like pressure from ownership to build a playoff team right away.

 

[TheHudlinator]

The way Feaster said it, it does sound that way. He said that Edwards told him he expects them to be in the playoffs next year. Sounds to me like pressure from ownership to build a playoff team right away.

Yea this^

Feaster has always been able to put a good spin on what he says but it is pretty clear that ownership wants to compete again next year.

 

[Beats By CoRD]

Makes me wonder if McFee was one of the GM's looking for Glencross. I would've traded Glenny for Forsberg in a second.

 

[superhakan]

The biggest holes on the flames roster right now are a #1 C and #1 D.

This team doesnt need to blow up much more to start rebuilding.

Coming out of the draft the flames have a shot at Barkov or Mackinnon they take them. Draft BPA with the other two first and we have into next season:


Glencross - Stajan - Stempniak (Plays the tough competition)
Tanguay - Backlund - Cammalleri
Baertschi - Mackinnon - Hudler
----------- 4th Line------------

Giordano - Wideman
Brodie - FA
Butler - Cundari

Ramo
Berra


Leaves us with:

Gaudreau
Jankowski
St. Louis Pick
Pittsburgh Pick
Gillies
Brossoit
Seiloff
Ferland
Reinhart
Hanowski
Agostino
Arnold
etc...

The roster isnt completely devoid of talent and it allows us to bring the prospects up slowly. Nailing this draft will be incredibly important going forward.

 

[Body Checker]

Getting to the playoffs and being a Cup Contender are two different animals, sooooo........

we could still stay on the "draft plan" by keeping all our picks in June and getting 3 first rounders

but stay on the "UFA plan" and sign guys like Weiss, Horton and maybe some hockey trades i.e. Hudler for Z. Michalek

Feaster has yet to make a Forsberg for Erat type trade so I think we keep our picks/youth and go hard at UFAs

 

[Body Checker]

Penguins taking on Jokinen's 3 million for next year further's the conspiracy that Iggy comes back

but only if Pens win Cup, IMO

 

[StreakingRed]

Penguins taking on Jokinen's 3 million for next year further's the conspiracy that Iggy comes back

but only if Pens win Cup, IMO

I think if Iginla ever comes back, it won't be for another 3-4 years, towards the tail end of his career.

Seriously, once he gets a taste of a well run organization that knows how to run a team and surrounds him with talent, why would he want to come back to this gong show? Especially if he wins a Cup, he'll likely want to win another and go on a few more cup runs.

He'll likely re-sign with Pittsburgh or another contender, and maybe return in his final year before calling it quits, so he can retire with the Flames.

 

[Svenner]

Penguins taking on Jokinen's 3 million for next year further's the conspiracy that Iggy comes back

but only if Pens win Cup, IMO

They can still buy out Jokinen if it means making room for Iggy . As many people have stated, he probably won't come back unless he wins a cup.

 

[Flamester]

do you guys think there is anyways the flames can draft both Drouin and Mackinnon??

 

[Backlund]

do you guys think there is anyways the flames can draft both Drouin and Mackinnon??

It's possible, I just put it above Feaster's abilities as a GM. It would have to be a similar situation to how Vancouver got both Sedins. Another reason why I want Burke.

 

[TheHudlinator]

do you guys think there is anyways the flames can draft both Drouin and Mackinnon??

Not unless we get the #1 pick trade to #2 and get a significant asset we can move to move STL and Pitts pick to #3.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

do you guys think there is anyways the flames can draft both Drouin and Mackinnon??

Honestly? No.

 

[1989]

It's possible, I just put it above Feaster's abilities as a GM. It would have to be a similar situation to how Vancouver got both Sedins. Another reason why I want Burke.

You mean Mackinnon and Drouin are going to publicly announce that they wouldn't play for different teams?

It had little to do with Burke - in fact, I've always felt that he made those trades needlessly. As long as he was in the position to pick one first, he would have gotten the other because one Sedin would refuse to play. It might have taken until the second round, or a contract holdout/dispute by a Sedin, but it was going to happen regardless.

Totally incomparable situations regarding drafting twice in the top 5.

 

[Flamester]

Not unless we get the #1 pick trade to #2 and get a significant asset we can move to move STL and Pitts pick to #3.

i wish man, thats the best case scenario right now. can you imagine a Drouin, Mackinnon, Baertschi line next year, it would be insane

 

[bigfatfist]

After all the trades and commotion of the past few days, wanted to wish you guys the best of luck in your re-build/re-tool. Seems like Ottawa a few years ago, this was a long time coming, but came about rather quickly. Watching prospects develop is INFINITELY better seeing a team back into the playoffs and predictably get bounced in the first round!

But honestly.....no chance you can get Florida's pick. At this point they need quality, established young players to take them forward. Less value on picks/prospects. IMO.

 

[Volica]

i wish man, thats the best case scenario right now. can you imagine a Drouin, Mackinnon, Baertschi line next year, it would be insane

Munchkin line.

 

[Tkachuky]

So if we pick top 5, would the players be ready to play next season in NHL? I am not too familiar with this year's prospects. Knowing that we could get our own Towes/Stamkos/Tavares etc is exciting.

 

[Calculon]

You mean Mackinnon and Drouin are going to publicly announce that they wouldn't play for different teams?

It had little to do with Burke - in fact, I've always felt that he made those trades needlessly. As long as he was in the position to pick one first, he would have gotten the other because one Sedin would refuse to play. It might have taken until the second round, or a contract holdout/dispute by a Sedin, but it was going to happen regardless.

Totally incomparable situations regarding drafting twice in the top 5.

That didn't happen. Sedins acknowledged the fact that there was a very good chance they wouldn't play together.

 

[DouglasQuaid]

murray edwards told feaster he wants the flames in the playoffs next year. prepare for a terrible rebuild.

 

[herashak]

you would think a player like mackinnon could develop chemistry with a greatly talented player like baertschi. I know he has being doing great with drouin but we have other players that we should try to acquire instead of going all in for mackinnon and drouin.

 

[Roadrage]

do you guys think there is anyways the flames can draft both Drouin and Mackinnon??

Intellectual Honestly speaking...NO!

 

[DouglasQuaid]

Intellectual Honestly speaking...NO!

So yes?