The Prospect Thread II (McKay called up)

[MurrayBannerman]

I don't expect him in the majors this year. He doesn't even have 50 innings in Double-A. Speaking of innings, that's what he needs more than anything.

That's a little foolish. I wouldn't be surprised if he threw the bulk of his innings in the majors this year.

 

[rangerssharks414]

That's a little foolish. I wouldn't be surprised if he threw the bulk of his innings in the majors this year.

You think so? I mean, you're more knowledgeable about prospects than I am, so to the poster that asked about Giolito, trust this guy.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

You think so? I mean, you're more knowledgeable about prospects than I am, so to the poster that asked about Giolito, trust this guy.

He's super advanced and they have rotation space for him. Well every team does.

 

[darko]

Yeah i wouldn't be surprised if he's up with the big club late May/early June.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

I'll watch all those games.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

He'll be in the Majors this year, but he shouldn't be unless he just obliterates AAA (a legitimate possibility).

Obligatory note about me being ridiculously conservative about prospect development.

 

[darko]

He doesn't need to touch AAA. If he lights up AA he's major league ready. A jump from AA to ML isn't that much bigger than from AAA. JMO

 

[MurrayBannerman]

He doesn't need to touch AAA. If he lights up AA he's major league ready. A jump from AA to ML isn't that much bigger than from AAA. JMO

It really isn't. It's just more guys like Mike Hessman mixed in.

 

[DougieSmash]

Gosh, in last few years Padres trade a lot of good and above average prospects: Joe Ross, Trea Turner, Matt Andriese, Matt Wisler, Max Fried, Jace Peterson, Mallex Smith, Zach Eflin, Johnny Barbato, Burch Smith, Jesse Hahn, RJ Alvarez.

They doesn't exactly develop guys like Liriano, James Darnell, Yeison Asencio, Jaff Decker and Keyvius Sampson. You could make a point they give too quickly Grandal and Forsythe. Gyorko wasn't the same after the contract.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

What do people think is Blake Snell's ETA? Seems like he may need an injury to step in, but it has to be some point in 2016? Obviously Erasmo Ramirez is not going to block him, but with Cobb returning mid-season and the Rays likely wanting to be cautious about Super Two, do you think they'd call him up mid-season and start him in the bullpen? I am not seeing where the starts will come in without an injury.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Uh, Erasmo Ramirez is good. He gives them the ability to let Snell develop.

Hell, I'd rather yank Moore from the rotation.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

Maybe I'm mediating too much through fantasy baseball experience -- essentially meaningless when it comes to actual baseball -- but my sense is that Ramirez is an above-average bottom of the rotation starter and not much more.

In any case, not trying to quibble about the Rays staff. More just curious about how far away Snell is in the abstract and then secondly how far away he is depending on opportunity. It seems like a given that he'll be in AAA until the Super Two deadline safely passes, but maybe I'm being too optimistic and he will basically spend the whole season in AAA.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Ramirez has always had the talent and the stuff. He finally tied stuff together in Tampa.

That said, they can be patient with Snell, like every arm they groomed before.

 

[darko]

ETA? As soon as they push his arbitration clock by a year.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Murray's Top 101 Prospects - Pre-Season

1. Corey Seager, SS, LAD
2. Byron Buxton, OF, MIN
3. Lucas Giolito, SP, WSH
4. JP Crawford, SS, PHI
5. Nomar Mazara, OF, TEX
6. Julio Urias, SP, LAD
7. Orlando Arcia, SS, MIL
8. Tyler Glasnow, SP, PIT
9. Yoan Moncada, 2B, BOS
10. Joey Gallo, 3B, TEX
11. Nick Williams, OF, PHI
12. Lewis Brinson, OF, TEX
13. Blake Snell, SP, TB
14. Bradley Zimmer, OF, CLE
15. Alex Reyes, SP, STL
16. Jose Berrios, SP, MIN
17. Steven Matz, SP, NYM
18. Dansby Swanson, SS, ATL
19. Rafael Devers, 3B, BOS
20. Trea Turner, SS, WSH
21. Franklin Barreto, 3B, OAK
22. Manuel Margot, OF, SD
23. Austin Meadows, OF, PIT
24. Sean Manaea, SP, OAK
25. Raul Mondesi, SS, KC
26. David Dahl, OF, COL
27. Gleyber Torres, SS, CHC
28. Jeff Hoffman, SP, COL
29. Sean Newcomb, SP, ATL
30. Brendan Rodgers, SS, COL
31. Jake Thompson, SP, PHI
32. Tim Anderson, SS, CWS
33. Jose De Leon, SP, LAD
34. Andrew Benintendi, OF, BOS
35. Javier Guerra, SS, SD
36. Victor Robles, WSH
37. Jon Gray, SP, COL
38. Carson Fulmer, SP, CWS
39. Alex Bregman, SS, HOU
40. Brett Honeywell, SP, TB
41. A.J. Reed, 1B, HOU
42. Ozzie Albies, SS, ATL
43. Cody Ponce, SP, MIL
44. Jorge Alfaro, C, PHI
45. Grant Holmes, SP, LAD
46. Clint Frazier, OF, CLE
47. Archie Bradley, SP, ARI
48. Ryan McMahon, 3B, COL
49. Anderson Espinosa, SP, BOS
50. Willson Contreras, C, CHC
51. Willy Adames, SS, TB
52. Josh Hader, SP, MIL
53. Jameson Taillon, SP, PIT
54. Dillon Tate, SP, TEX
55. Hunter Harvey, SP, BAL
56. Anthony Alford, OF, TOR
57. Jesse Winker, OF, CIN
58. Brett Phillips, OF, MIL
59. Cody Reed, SP, CIN
60. Francis Martes, SP, HOU
61. Reynaldo Lopez, SP, WSH
62. Max Kepler, OF, MIN
63. Hunter Renfroe, OF, SD
64. Ian Happ, OF, CHC
65. Mark Appel, SP, PHI
66. Albert Almora, OF, CHC
67. Nick Gordon, SS, MIN
68. Robert Stephenson, SP, CIN
69. Reese McGuire, C, PIT
70. Raimel Tapia, OF, COL
71. Aaron Blair, SP, ATL
72. Josh Bell, 1B, PIT
73. Ahmed Rosario, SS, NYM
74. Brandon Drury, 3B, ARI
75. Forrest Wall, 2B, COL
76. Michael Fulmer, SP, DET
77. Taylor Guerreri, SP, TB
78. Erick Fedde, SP, WSH
79. Joe Musgrove, SP, HOU
80. Aaron Judge, OF, NYY
81. Jack Flaherty, SP, STL
82. Jorge Mateo, SS, NYY
83. Gary Sanchez, C, NYY
84. Trevor Story, SS, COL
85. Franklyn Kilome, SP, PHI
86. Kyle Zimmer, SP, KC
87. Daniel Robertson, SS, TB
88. Christian Arroyo, SS, SF
89. Conner Greene, SP, TOR
90. Alex Jackson, OF, SEA
91. Amir Garrett, SP, CIN
92. Roman Quinn, OF, PHI
93. Duane Underwood, SP, CHC
94. Drew Jackson, SS, SEA
95. Billy McKinney, OF, CHC
96. Jacob Faria, SP, TB
97. Isan Diaz, SS, MIL
98. Harold Ramirez, OF, PIT
99. Cornelius Randolph, OF, PHI
100. Braden Shipley, SP, ARI
101. Chance Sisco, C, BAL

 

[MurrayBannerman]

This may be subject to change, but I think I got everything down well.

 

[darko]

Great work Murray as these are incredibly hard. Always wanted to do something like this but then I get indecisive and end up quitting.

You love your Mazara.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Do you think Barreto is going to move to third? I haven't seen him listed as a third baseman anywhere.

Nice list, by the way. Here are my two cents... granted, I don't know that that much about prospects.

Too high: Gray, Alfaro, Gallo
Too low: Benintendi, Shipley, Rodgers

 

[darko]

Do you think Barreto is going to move to third? I haven't seen him listed as a third baseman anywhere.

Nice list, by the way. Here are my two cents... granted, I don't know that that much about prospects.

Too high: Gray, Alfaro, Gallo
Too low: Benintendi, Shipley, Rodgers

Not surprised to see Rodgers that low. Murray isn't as bullish on him as some. Personally, Rodgers is a lock in top-15 but each to their own.

Fantasy owners will be crossing their fingers that if Barreto does move it's to 2B and not 3B.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Moved Brinson up because I didn't realize I had him so far from Williams. Love Brinson.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Do you think Barreto is going to move to third? I haven't seen him listed as a third baseman anywhere.

Nice list, by the way. Here are my two cents... granted, I don't know that that much about prospects.

Too high: Gray, Alfaro, Gallo
Too low: Benintendi, Shipley, Rodgers

Gray doesn't need to have a ton of command to be a mid rotation starter. Very high floor with a good ceiling. Coors is a push back on him though.

Alfaro has an easy path to being a very good catcher. The defense is improving and if he puts up .260 with 18 HRs, he's probably a 3+ win catcher.

Gallo could easily end up the best player on this list. Without quesiton.

I think I'm actually pretty high on Benintendi?

Shipley doesn't have the ceiling to me. I view him as a back end, innings eater.

I don't dislike Rodgers. Just hedging on risk.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Gray doesn't need to have a ton of command to be a mid rotation starter. Very high floor with a good ceiling. Coors is a push back on him though.

Alfaro has an easy path to being a very good catcher. The defense is improving and if he puts up .260 with 18 HRs, he's probably a 3+ win catcher.

Gallo could easily end up the best player on this list. Without quesiton.

I think I'm actually pretty high on Benintendi?

Shipley doesn't have the ceiling to me. I view him as a back end, innings eater.

I don't dislike Rodgers. Just hedging on risk.

See, that just shows how little I know. I thought Gray's FB% was higher and that Alfaro's defense was bad that they were considering a move to first for him.

As for Benintendi, Law has him 18th, MLB has him 25th and BA has him 15th.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Oh yeah... about Barreto, you think he's moving to third? Or was that a typo?

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Oh yeah... about Barreto, you think he's moving to third? Or was that a typo?

He's unequivocally a 3B. Like I don't think he ever has a chance to play SS regularly in the bigs. Also why I have Bell at 1B, but that's more of a Pirates OF embarrassment of riches thing.

See, that just shows how little I know. I thought Gray's FB% was higher and that Alfaro's defense was bad that they were considering a move to first for him.

As for Benintendi, Law has him 18th, MLB has him 25th and BA has him 15th.

Phillies worked with Alfaro on his D a lot. He'll get his shot at C.

Huh. Well I tried to be a bit conservative on 2015 draftees as well.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Again, thanks for the list.

I am kicking myself for taking Torres ahead of Brinson for my fantasy draft...