Line Combos: The "Power Play"

Kudo Shinichi

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In a couple of years:
PP1: Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Hutson
PP2: Newhook, Roy, Farrell, Mailloux, Reinbacher

Our pp will instantly get much better the moment Hutson makes it
 
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tinyzombies

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In a couple of years:
PP1: Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky, Hutson
PP2: Newhook, Roy, Farrell, Mailloux, Reinbacher

Our pp will instantly get much better the moment Hutson makes it
Barron is 21, not ready to give up on him yet. And he has been incrementally getting better over last two games. Might just be rust. He probably needs to go to Laval but doesn’t mean he can’t put it together. He added size and is now 202. Great skater. Needs to play a big role in Laval maybe and just get his reps.reminds me of Jeff Norton for some reason. He struggled at the beginning too but was obvious he could skate and there was offense in there that could be unlocked.
 
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MadMslm

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The decision no to try Guhle on the power play is just puzzling.

I get that they want to evaluate some players, but after 4-5 powerplays in a row with no success maybe they should try the best D on the team.

He’s shown before that he can find passing lane, he can shoot the puck, he isn’t afraid to go deeper in the zone and offer an other option and if things go bad he’s great at skating back to fix mistakes.

At one point they have to give him chance.
 

morhilane

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Already miss Drouin?
Drouin was the worst with his telegraphed passes and he would lose the puck the moment an opponent came into 5 ft of him.

Habs being shit at deceptions, passing and protecting the puck is insane. Players good at it when they join the club even regress over time at all 3.
 

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The Habs PP hasn’t been good since the days of Markov-Souray-Kovalev.

It wasn’t even good during the Markov-Subban days.
People forget that. The PP hit a snag the second Subban lost his foot speed. We have the same issues today that plagued us then. We keep killing speed with drop passes and head up ice with a lack of options. There was one example of a decent entry and it was actually on PP2. The play didn't get dropped back behind the goal line and four players broke out simultaneously. Kind of like the flying V we tried last season to break the trap. Guess what it worked. The PK is basically a four man version of the trap. No more drop passes no more wasting time and no more players getting icetime if they have no sense of urgency on our odd man situations.
 

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Already miss Drouin?
Fuc%ing hilarious!!
Gotta love the sense of humor on this board!!!

Matheson and Guhlie will make the PP better...............MSL should take notes on this.
And as others have said, Hutson can't get here soon enough, that's if he even will get a PP chance?
 

Habs4Life

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Let’s just say… it needs work.

Also, the drop pass is terrible. Please let it die already.

Hutson can’t get here soon enough.
the problem is the system as well we need a new powerplay coach that actually knows what they are doing. You can't expect hutson to come in and fix a broken system.
 

morhilane

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the problem is the system as well we need a new powerplay coach that actually knows what they are doing. You can't expect hutson to come in and fix a broken system.
Start by fixing the passive PK, then the PP players will learn to deal with puck carrier pressure and zone entries.
 

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The only Power I saw in those Plays is when they got back to the bench and drank their Powerade...
 
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Milhouse40

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the problem is the system as well we need a new powerplay coach that actually knows what they are doing. You can't expect hutson to come in and fix a broken system.

To be fair last night, some PP had a great deal of grade A scoring chances, it's not on the coach if they couldn't bury it.

Having said that....IT'S PRESEASON, it's not the Habs, it's not the players.
 

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The Habs PP hasn’t been good since the days of Markov-Souray-Kovalev.

It wasn’t even good during the Markov-Subban days.
that's a bit of a stretch. they definitely had some success, though I agree the decline came during that era. The team was lucky to have Markov-Subban and got complacent relying on them to produce on the PP.

We should bring Markov in as a PP consultant. I get he may not want to be behind the bench but he would be so helpful right now
 

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People forget that. The PP hit a snag the second Subban lost his foot speed. We have the same issues today that plagued us then. We keep killing speed with drop passes and head up ice with a lack of options. There was one example of a decent entry and it was actually on PP2. The play didn't get dropped back behind the goal line and four players broke out simultaneously. Kind of like the flying V we tried last season to break the trap. Guess what it worked. The PK is basically a four man version of the trap. No more drop passes no more wasting time and no more players getting icetime if they have no sense of urgency on our odd man situations.
I don’t mind the drop pass, it’s just a zone entry play, the problem is down to execution, (as with almost everything PP related really) it’s a play that most teams in NHL use in order to gain the zone with possession. In theory if you do it right, there’s almost nothing the opponent can do to prevent it.

My biggest issue with the Habs PP is;

1. Too much passing once they’re settled in zone. Players are always picking pucks off the boards with their back to the play.

2. It’s too obvious what they’re trying to do (get the puck to Caufield).

3. They need to figure out how to make more seam passes …this breaks down the PK box and forces the goalie to move east/west. It’s a static PP. They switch sides by passing it around, rather than through.

4. Terrible at puck retrievals.

Most of these issues can be fixed by having a true PP QB who dictates the play. They don’t have this unfortunately.

I think it’s beyond Burrows coaching…
 

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Fuc%ing hilarious!!
Gotta love the sense of humor on this board!!!

Matheson and Guhlie will make the PP better...............MSL should take notes on this.
And as others have said, Hutson can't get here soon enough, that's if he even will get a PP chance?
Matheson and Guhle were here last year. PP wasn’t better. It’s coaching. It’s absolutely idiotic coaching that kills it. Jacques Martin was better at coaching PP FFS
 
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MSL was a PP star... How come he cannot teach that aspect to his team ? Not Burrows fault at this point. The head coach has to step up. Maybe he doesn't have the horses to succeed ????
 

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MSL was a PP star... How come he cannot teach that aspect to his team ? Not Burrows fault at this point. The head coach has to step up. Maybe he doesn't have the horses to succeed ????
MSL already took over the PP last year in February or so. Tells you a lot about all those complaints on Burrows. Not sure about this year.

A lot of the problems so far is only execution from the top players. That should be fixed by season start. And Norlinder. Hopefully he's out of there.

Getting into the zone is pretty easy right now. They just give it to Dach.

Dach in Suzuki spot, Suzuki in Caufield spot and Caufield in the bumper is interesting.
 

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