OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: You Play to Lose the Game

[Common Sense]

At least Bell came to play.

 

[Al Smith]

The broadcast just took a turn for the worse. Ray ****ing Lewis

 

[BrokenStick]

They won't be. I'll throw money down on that. Also get ready for run run pass on next drive down by 11

Haley will be fired, Tomlin retained, all the fans will rejoice just like they did when Arians was let go, and then another OC will be brought in and we'll see the same exact problems as before.

And everyone will just keep blaming the OC, regardless of who it is.

 

[Dick Sledge]

Play action deep ball coming up.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

Haley will be fired, Tomlin retained, all the fans will rejoice just like they did when Arians was let go, and then another OC will be brought in and we'll see the same exact problems as before.

And everyone will just keep blaming the OC, regardless of who it is.

Haley is a problem though. I don't know how anybody could deny that.

 

[BrokenStick]

Haley is a problem though. I don't know how anybody could deny that.

No, he's not. I was one of the many who thought Arians was the problem. I've learned better at this point.

It's always easier to blame the play calling, or the choice to run vs. pass, when a play doesn't work, but it's not the play selection that has repeatedly killed the Steelers over and over.

It has been too many O-line busts, no secondary, and too much success pushing draft picks late and cap numbers high.

But it's much easier to blame one person, especially if he's an unlikable guy.

 

[Dick Sledge]

That's what I'm talking about. Love AB

 

[Pharrell Williams]

No, he's not. I was one of the many who thought Arians was the problem. I've learned better at this point.

It's always easier to blame the play calling, or the choice to run vs. pass, when a play doesn't work, but it's not the play selection that has repeatedly killed the Steelers over and over.

It has been too many O-line busts, no secondary, and too much success pushing draft picks late and cap numbers high.

But it's much easier to blame one person, especially if he's an unlikable guy.

So... running on 3rd and long is okay because we would make it if we had a better O-line?

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

No, he's not. I was one of the many who thought Arians was the problem. I've learned better at this point.

It's always easier to blame the play calling, or the choice to run vs. pass, when a play doesn't work, but it's not the play selection that has repeatedly killed the Steelers over and over.

It has been too many O-line busts, no secondary, and too much success pushing draft picks late and cap numbers high.

But it's much easier to blame one person, especially if he's an unlikable guy.

What about a run on 3rd and 6? What about calling a screen from the 5 yard line? Or a screen when the Steelers are down 17 points with 50 seconds left in the half and no timeouts? Jet sweeps from the 5 yard line? Haley makes calls that average high school oc's know not to make. If you think he is good at his job you simply have no clue.

 

[BrokenStick]

What about a run on 3rd and 6? What about calling a screen from the 5 yard line? Or a screen when the Steelers are down 17 points with 50 seconds left in the half and no timeouts? Jet sweeps from the 5 yard line? Haley makes calls that average high school oc's know not to make. If you think he is good at his job you simply have no clue.

If average high school coaches are better than him, why does he keep getting NFL jobs?

It's just another classic case of fans thinking they know better when they can judge the result, not the decision.

And yes, sometimes running on 3rd & long is a good idea to not get your QB killed. If the O-line were better, they'd have far fewer 3rd & long situations.

And so you seriously think that Ben doesn't have the authority to change the play if he sees something in the defence?

 

[Al Smith]

If average high school coaches are better than him, why does he keep getting NFL jobs?

It's just another classic case of fans thinking they know better when they can judge the result, not the decision.

And yes, sometimes running on 3rd & long is a good idea to not get your QB killed. If the O-line were better, they'd have far fewer 3rd & long situations.

And so you seriously think that Ben doesn't have the authority to change the play if he sees something in the defence?

I think he got his start like many others in the NFL (and other pro sports do) through his name (e.g., Kyle Shanahan, Schottenheimer, Marvin Lewis' kid in Cincy, Wade Phillips, the list goes on and on). With the exception of horrendous failures like David Shula, most can keep moving around by being just average.

Edit: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ns-follow-their-father-s-nfl-footsteps-061514

 

[OnMyOwn]

200 yds rushing. Nice for Bell

 

[Pharrell Williams]

Is Bell half mule?

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

If average high school coaches are better than him, why does he keep getting NFL jobs?

It's just another classic case of fans thinking they know better when they can judge the result, not the decision.

And yes, sometimes running on 3rd & long is a good idea to not get your QB killed. If the O-line were better, they'd have far fewer 3rd & long situations.

And so you seriously think that Ben doesn't have the authority to change the play if he sees something in the defence?

Please explain to me why anybody would think a jet sweep would work in the red zone. Please explain why anybody would call a screen to start a drive with 50 seconds left and no time outs when the team is losing by 17 and needs to score.

This is not criticizing the result instead of the decision, this is criticizing really stupid decisions. Are you for real?

 

[Tek_Jansen]

Well that was some old school Cowher football on the final drive, I guess it still has a place in the NFL if the defense can't stop you even when they know it's coming.

 

[Shockmaster]

Were there any PI calls in this game? I don't remember any.

 

[ColePens]

I'm on Mobile here....can someone get a new thread up?