OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: World Cup N'at

[Brandinho]

Excuse my ignorance but.... why would Miller go to prison? For paying recruits?
Why would the law care about NCAA violations at all?

This reminds me of when the senate was investigating steroid use in baseball. How is that even remotely relevant to US law in any way.

Book Richardson is facing 60 years in prison as a result of the scandal based on these charges: conspiracy to commit bribery, solicitation of bribes by an agent of a federally funded organization, conspiracy to commit honest services fraud, wire fraud conspiracy and travel act conspiracy. Sean Miller was caught in a federal wiretap discussing bribes on several occasions. He's not in as deep of shit as Richardson is, but it's hardly a rosy situation for him. He may very well avoid prison, but I'd have to think his coaching career is over at the very least. Dude f***ed up big time getting caught discussing the Ayton bribe, all of his plausible deniability is gone.

 

[OnMyOwn]

 

[Al Smith]

Hopefully he doesn't suffer the same fate as Ki-jana Carter and Curtis Enis, although Carter squeezed out a serviceable career.

 

[Hasbro]

We're still looking for a Steelers GM and have a few other teams available in our NFL mock starting the 9th

 

[KIRK]

Hopefully he doesn't suffer the same fate as Ki-jana Carter and Curtis Enis, although Carter squeezed out a serviceable career.

Yeah, Penn State RB's haven't exactly had the best NFL rep since, well, I suppose Franco.

I think trading Martavis Bryant would be damn stupid, but if they do it, I hope they can grab DaeSean Hamilton in the draft. Kid is being criminally underrated by the "experts" and I have no idea why.

Zero point to trading Bryant. Let him play out his contract year. One would think there would be an incentive for him to kill it out there.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Less than 48 hours for the Steelers to decide to tag Bell or not.

Really feel he isn't worth 14m...

If they reach a deal, I'll probably hate that number as well. Just don't think any RB is worth big coin in today's NFL.

 

[KIRK]

Less than 48 hours for the Steelers to decide to tag Bell or not.

Really feel he isn't worth 14m...

If they reach a deal, I'll probably hate that number as well. Just don't think any RB is worth big coin in today's NFL.

I wish there were a Portis for Bailey type deal out there (be it for a CB, S, or LB).

 

[Brandinho]

I think trading Martavis Bryant would be damn stupid, but if they do it, I hope they can grab DaeSean Hamilton in the draft. Kid is being criminally underrated by the "experts" and I have no idea why.

I wouldn't complain if we took a flier on him later in the draft, he looked really good in the postseason all-star games, but it's hard to justify taking him in the middle rounds given his subpar athleticism. He has all the intangibles one could want in a football player, but if you can't get off the line, none of that matters. Given how strong we are at developing WRs, I'd be more interested in a raw player with plus athleticism.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I wish there were a Portis for Bailey type deal out there (be it for a CB, S, or LB).

I'm sure there could be, but those 1-1 trades in the NFL are as rare as a BB smile.

 

[domaug]

as much of a game changer he is, i don't think the Steelers should proceed with Bell being an untouchable piece.

I'm not saying trade him, per se, but I think the Steelers shouldn't automatically turn down any serious trade offers for Bell if they get them.

TL;DR: I think the Steelers should make Bell available for the right return.

 

[Brandinho]

as much of a game changer he is, i don't think the Steelers should proceed with Bell being an untouchable piece.

I'm not saying trade him, per se, but I think the Steelers shouldn't automatically turn down any serious trade offers for Bell if they get them.

TL;DR: I think the Steelers should make Bell available for the right return.

You can't trade him if he remains unsigned. Therefore, you either sign him long-term and try to trade him, which doesn't really make sense, or you franchise him and trade him after he signs, but then you'd be trying to trade a guy on what is essentially a one year contract. There are good arguments to be made for both re-signing and moving on from Bell, but I can't imagine we'd get any reasonable trade offers given the circumstances.

 

[domaug]

You can't trade him if he remains unsigned. Therefore, you either sign him long-term and try to trade him, which doesn't really make sense, or you franchise him and trade him after he signs, but then you'd be trying to trade a guy on what is essentially a one year contract. There are good arguments to be made for both re-signing and moving on from Bell, but I can't imagine we'd get any reasonable trade offers given the circumstances.

i get that, but I'm talking in the case of if they can re-sign him. i think that has to be done regardless of whether they want to keep him long term or not.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Our window is like 2 years anyway, if Ben even sticks around. Sign Bell for big money and cut your losses in a couple of years. Money can be shuffled around to make it work, IMO.

 

[The Old Master]

You can't trade him if he remains unsigned. Therefore, you either sign him long-term and try to trade him, which doesn't really make sense, or you franchise him and trade him after he signs, but then you'd be trying to trade a guy on what is essentially a one year contract. There are good arguments to be made for both re-signing and moving on from Bell, but I can't imagine we'd get any reasonable trade offers given the circumstances.

new England would grab him and win another sb

 

[WickedWrister]

Soooo the one handed linebacker ran a 4.38, the fastest time for a linebacker ever. His brother is also Shaquelle Griffin, the Seahawks CB.

 

[Shockmaster]

new England would grab him and win another sb

Would NE give him $15 million per year though?

 

[The Old Master]

Would NE give him $15 million per year though?

naw.... he would take less just to play for them.

 

[Shockmaster]

naw.... he would take less just to play for them.

Are you sure? Because from previous quotes it sounds like Bell is solely interested in money first and foremost.

 

[The Old Master]

Are you sure? Because from previous quotes it sounds like Bell is solely interested in money first and foremost.

he's only interested in money till he fills he's being dis'ts by a team ......then he'll do anything to get even.

 

[AverageJoeFan]

Bell, wants the $$.
Steelers have two choices, one not in their wheelhouse.
One they franchise him. Two they offer him a contract.
The third choice is Bell sits out a year if he doesn't accept the offer.

I would think he plays. I think the Steelers franchise him. Limited window with him and Ben and AB. That 14.5 mil tho is just way more than they should pay. /shrug

 

[Shockmaster]

he's only interested in money till he fills he's being dis'ts by a team ......then he'll do anything to get even.

I think you might be overestimating Bell's motivation beyond anything that isn't dollar signs.

 

[DanielPlainview]

I wouldn't complain if we took a flier on him later in the draft, he looked really good in the postseason all-star games, but it's hard to justify taking him in the middle rounds given his subpar athleticism. He has all the intangibles one could want in a football player, but if you can't get off the line, none of that matters. Given how strong we are at developing WRs, I'd be more interested in a raw player with plus athleticism.

I think they draft better than they develop. Coates and Wheaton never developed like they could have and some of that is on the team.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I can't fathom why they would pay Bell almost 6m more per season than the next highest paid back.

Steelers avg the same amount of points without Bell, as they did with him.

I also keep thinking about how productive a 31 year old Williams was in this offense, only making two million per.

It seems like a really bad per dollar investment.

 

[DanielPlainview]

There have been quite a few games where for long stretches the only thing working was Bell being a one man show. He's by far the best back in the game. I wouldn't sell him short.

As far as longevity concerns, I think he'll be good into 30s because of his build and ability to BHOB. When the quickness and speed go, he'll still be very good.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I can't fathom why they would pay Bell almost 6m more per season than the next highest paid back.

Steelers avg the same amount of points without Bell, as they did with him.

I also keep thinking about how productive a 31 year old Williams was in this offense, only making two million per.

It seems like a really bad per dollar investment.

Yup..Bell is great but id like to see what another talented rb can do in this offense. Williams was the only one weve seen and he was productive.