OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Football Drama

[Shockmaster]

I believe the actual quote from Tomlin was something along the lines of “such is life this time of year”

All low-hanging fruit.

 

[SouthGeorge]

We don't live in our fears

 

[Andy99]

“Iron sharpens iron”.... whatever the bleep that means....

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

“Iron sharpens iron”.... whatever the bleep that means....

It predates Tomlin by a little.

As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another. - Proverbs 27:17 (NIV)

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

Bell working hard this offseason

Video: Le'Veon Bell Working On Building Hand Strength At Strip Club - Steelers Depot

 

[Al Smith]

He's a young, rich knucklehead. So this isn't too surprising. Hopefully, he's filling at least a few hours of the rest of his days with getting in shape for the regular season. The odder incident was Jimmy Garoppalo's deer in the headlights reaction to social media buzz about his date with a porn star.

 

[Shockmaster]

“Iron sharpens iron”.... whatever the bleep that means....

Such is life in the National Football League.

 

[USMC607]

So does anyone think that ohio state will face sanctions for Meyer knowing one of his assistant coaches was a domestic abuser???

What do you think happens to Myers who claims he never knew anything and especially his wife who also works at the school and for certain knew of it.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Nothing should happen to him. Other people's actions are not his responsibility. He fired the guy and that's that.

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

Nothing should happen to him. Other people's actions are not his responsibility. He fired the guy and that's that.

Except he didn't fire him, he kept him on for years knowing that he was a violent abusive piece of shit until it no longer became tenable.

 

[DanielPlainview]

He actually did fire him.

This whole thing is a prime example of the absurd moral posturing, outrage, guilty-if-we-say-so BS that needs to die immediately. So many people are making broad assumptions based on gossip and are treating hearsay as absolute proof.

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

Yeah yeah you know what I mean

 

[DanielPlainview]

No, I don't. You are assuming Meyer knew the extent of the problem, which there is no evidence of at this time.

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

No, I don't. You are assuming Meyer knew the extent of the problem, which there is no evidence of at this time.

Okay I should have used the word "allegedly" in my first post, that's fair enough.

But if he knew since 2009 and kept him on staff then yeah it's his problem

 

[DanielPlainview]

I'm going to assume innocence, like we're supposed to in a country founded on liberal values. So, until we have concrete proof, there is no allegedly, there is no maybe, it's he didn't know and nothing else.

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

I'm going to assume innocence, like we're supposed to in a country founded on liberal values. So, until we have concrete proof, there is no allegedly, there is no maybe, it's he didn't know and nothing else.

That's not how presumption of innocence works.

 

[DegenX]

So does anyone think that ohio state will face sanctions for Meyer knowing one of his assistant coaches was a domestic abuser???

What do you think happens to Myers who claims he never knew anything and especially his wife who also works at the school and for certain knew of it.

What's been reported is that the ex-wife never followed through on charges prior to Smith's arrest last month. Once he was arrested, he was fired. The ex-wife says all the other wives knew, including Meyer's now ex-wife, but there's no proof Meyer himself knew. I'm not sure what Meyer should have done either way? Barring proof of some sort of criminal activity, people's private lives should be their private lives. If Smith was counseling players to be abusive, or if he was being abusive towards the players themselves, sure, Meyer should have taken some action. But firing someone based on rumors or allegations? That's shady, too. Until last week, there was no actual evidence. Once there was, he was fired. That should be the end of it. And it probably will be.

 

[USMC607]

What's been reported is that the ex-wife never followed through on charges prior to Smith's arrest last month. Once he was arrested, he was fired. The ex-wife says all the other wives knew, including Meyer's now ex-wife, but there's no proof Meyer himself knew. I'm not sure what Meyer should have done either way? Barring proof of some sort of criminal activity, people's private lives should be their private lives. If Smith was counseling players to be abusive, or if he was being abusive towards the players themselves, sure, Meyer should have taken some action. But firing someone based on rumors or allegations? That's shady, too. Until last week, there was no actual evidence. Once there was, he was fired. That should be the end of it. And it probably will be.

I think someone said in a text convo between the abused exwife and Myers ex wife. Photos were sent back and forth and Myers ex wife texted that Urban didnt know what to think of it all.

Meaning he knew it was going on well before he fired him.

Idk the specifics. But I agree that as a HC you shouldnt be held responsible for your other coaches actions, outside of the facility. They are adults and should conduct themselves as such.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Per these last two posts, just because I'm confused in reading them... Meyer and his wife are not divorced. It doesn't really matter as regards the Zach and Courtney Smith stuff and his continued (or not) employ at Ohio State, but just for clarity.

I'm a Pittsburgher who lives in Columbus but didn't attend OSU and only follow what's happening there as a general sports fan and someone who lives in a place surrounded by fans, so I have no vested interest in this working out one way or the other. Meyer has always seemed kind of like a jerk to me, but I don't know the guy and have only encountered him in a professional setting a couple times. I think the university is just looking at optics at this point.

 

[DanielPlainview]

I know it's one pre-season game, but Lamar Jackson looked bad. It's made worse by his obvious run-first tendencies. He has no chance at a long career unless he completely changes his game. I'm so glad the Ravens drafted him

 

[ImporterExporter]

He can't throw a football. He's a very poor man's Mike Vick. Players like him almost never succeed at QB in the NFL and it has absolutely nothing to do with skin color (since we aren't allowed to criticize minorities without being full blown racists these days)......Vick often resorted to running before he should, but he at least had the ability to drive a football with some accuracy and power. Jackson has zero ability to read what's in front of him and it's not even entirely his fault. He wasn't in that sort of system at Louisville and his natural abilities lend itself to using athleticism before all else. Breaking that habit is going to be extremely difficult. Yeah he'll flash throws and make highlight reel plays with his legs, but I put him around 10% of ever being anything more than a gimmick.

 

[Pengwins]

He scored a 13 on the Wonderlic test. He is not smart

 

[brewski420]

I think someone said in a text convo between the abused exwife and Myers ex wife. Photos were sent back and forth and Myers ex wife texted that Urban didnt know what to think of it all.

Meaning he knew it was going on well before he fired him.

Idk the specifics. But I agree that as a HC you shouldnt be held responsible for your other coaches actions, outside of the facility. They are adults and should conduct themselves as such.

Just listening to Dan Patrick show and he was saying the issue is that his contract states he must report any issue that comes to his attention regarding the program. Don't know if true or even what the language in the contract is but there's that. Still hate the rush to judgement led by media.

 

[Shockmaster]

Just listening to Dan Patrick show and he was saying the issue is that his contract states he must report any issue that comes to his attention regarding the program. Don't know if true or even what the language in the contract is but there's that. Still hate the rush to judgement led by media.

But how can they concretely prove Meyer knew? Without some kind of written or electronic proof, Meyer can just deny that his wife/ex-wife/whatever told him verbally. OSU won't be able to prove it otherwise.

I have no rooting interest in OSU football, and Meyer comes off as a huge dick to me, but it may be impossible to prove he knew of this abuse beforehand.

 

[USMC607]

Regretfully changing the topic back the Le'veon.

But I guess he released a new album today or yesterday, and people are already up in arms. But it's not about the steelers.

A snippet of lyrics from one song that has people steamed is

"All these women trying to have my baby. Better not make me pull a Shady"

Apparently referencing McCoy who is being accused of sending a sort of hit man after one of his ex's to steal back all the jewelry and expensive stuff he bought her, while together.

If it's not one thing it's another.