OT: The Philadelphia Seventy Sixers: The Sixers Used Harden - It Wasn't Very Effective (Offseason)

[Hollywood Cannon]

3K is just a little over 1K so here's a new thread.

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[SnS]

Things most definitely need to change.

 

[Embiid]

Fire Doc Rivers....

 

[Jack Straw]

What are we going to talk about now?

 

[Embiid]

Fire Doc Rivers!

Ban Harden from strip clubs!

 

[SnS]

Fire rivers.
Get a real bench.
Fix the starting lineup.


Maxey / xxxx / Thybulle / xxxx / JoJo.

 

[Jack Straw]

Fire rivers.
Get a real bench.
Fix the starting lineup.


Maxey / xxxx / Thybulle / xxxx / JoJo.

Not happening.

Harden will almost certainly be back. Harris might be. Matisse can't be a starter unless he develops some kind of offense.

Maxey/Harden/Harris(?)/xxxx/Embiid

 

[SnS]

Not happening.

Harden will almost certainly be back. Harris might be. Matisse can't be a starter unless he develops some kind of offense.

Maxey/Harden/Harris(?)/xxxx/Embiid

Makes me wanna throw up. There’s no way to justify a max contract to Harden. And Harris is atrocious.

We will continue to have the same results if they keep going down this path.

 

[Embiid]

If Morey doesn't parlay Harris like dumping his contract on OKC then he should be fired too. I mean Harris had a nice little playoffs with his D especially but the roster needs more balance and Harris' contract impedes that..

 

[Jtown]

@Hollywood Cannon CLiff lee a conman?

Trading cliff lee away was the dumbest move in franchise history and ruined the Roy trade.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@Hollywood Cannon CLiff lee a conman?

Trading cliff lee away was the dumbest move in franchise history and ruined the Roy trade.

When he came back? Yes. It was great at the time of course but...

He collected his money and made no attempt to come back once the injuries struck. I don't recall the exact details of the timeline but it wasn't exactly pretty once the team wasn't very good anymore.

 

[Rebels57]

Not enough Sixers fans are talking about how Embiid missed the first 2 games and was limited in the next 4 thanks to that dirty elbow by Siakim.

Different series had that not happened. Thats the truth.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Bontemps thinks they end up with Quin Snyder. That would be a pretty damn good hire.

 

[Jtown]

Not enough Sixers fans are talking about how Embiid missed the first 2 games and was limited in the next 4 thanks to that dirty elbow by Siakim.

Different series had that not happened. Thats the truth.

not enough sixers fans are talking about the antics of embiid that incited the Siakim elbow.

 

[Embiid]

Hope Niang is ready to go back to work in practice...lol

 

[Jack Straw]

Makes me wanna throw up. There’s no way to justify a max contract to Harden. And Harris is atrocious.

We will continue to have the same results if they keep going down this path.

There seems to be some possibility that Harden will take less than a max contract. Some possibilities are laid out here:

Breaking Down Sixers' Options With James Harden's Next Contract

Bontemps thinks they end up with Quin Snyder. That would be a pretty damn good hire.

Wouldn't mind that at all.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

The NTMLE is ~10 MM. The BAE is ~4 MM.

I know the machinations of the cap are obtuse.

 

[Halladay]

Get a team that can rebound. That is all.

 

[Embiid]

There seems to be some possibility that Harden will take less than a max contract. Some possibilities are laid out here:

Breaking Down Sixers' Options With James Harden's Next Contract




Wouldn't mind that at all.

Harden post game said pretty much he was willing to take a discount to help the team....so not really breaking news.

 

[Jack Straw]

For those who can never get enough "why did Jimmy Buckets leave Philly?" content (I've had more than enough myself), here's a thread. The tweets mentioning Horford are particularly relevant I think.

 

[Embiid]

For those who can never get enough "why did Jimmy Buckets leave Philly?" content (I've had more than enough myself), here's a thread. The tweets mentioning Horford are particularly relevant I think.

Yikes....

I don't see the Horford tweets?

Either way it was a mistake...

 

[Embiid]

For what it's worth

Quin Snyder doesn’t sound like a coach who is planning an exit, instead looking to the future of the Jazz

Quin Snyder didn’t come right out and say that he will remain the Utah Jazz’s head coach; he plans to be “exhaustive” in analyzing how the team can improve.

www.deseret.com

 

[Jack Straw]

Yikes....

I don't see the Horford tweets?

Either way it was a mistake...

Tweets #6 and 7 in the thread.

 

[Embiid]

Tweets #6 and 7 in the thread.

Ouch....depressing.

Honestly though it wasn't just one thing ...it was a convergence of reasons. I even seem to recall Harris saying it was either him or Butler too. Once Butler was gone Harris had leverage and the Sixers needed him so they paid the extra term since Harris had another offer.

I know Butler wasn't crazy about Brown too so that is not surprising and Simmons approached Brown about how he felt some kind of way when they let Butler be the point forward. He wanted it to be his team as the PG. It was just one big cluster of a situation compounded by egos and incompetence by the FO. I mean valuing Horford over Butler and saying that was the main cause is a bit of a stretch to me.

 

[Flybynite]

I have very little interest in this team moving forward since it's been obvious for awhile the only chance for the playoffs is to hope it coincides with a 6-8 week period where Embiid is fully healthy and as we've seen with him that just doesn't seem to be in the cards. Especially when you need that 6-8 week period happen after an entire regular season of basketball.

If Silver does the mid-season tournament in the next couple of years the Sixers and Embiid could win that. I don't see a real playoffs championship happening though.