The Pettersson and Hughes Contract Thread | Tick tock...

[VanillaCoke]

Can you guys take this to the management thread?

Every thread is the management thread pls stop complaining

 

[4Twenty]

Every thread is the management thread pls stop complaining

It doesn’t need to be.

Please stop making every thread a Benning thread.

 

[m9]

Dhaliwal said on the radio this morning that there is nothing to the 8 million dollar rumored deals and there is still lots of work to be done.

 

[BrentSopelsHair]

Benning is kind of like climate change. It's the underlying issue with every topic so is really always relevant, but those who want to ignore it can always deflect it away as irrelevant and off-topic

 

[4Twenty]

Benning is kind of like climate change. It's the underlying issue with every topic so is really always relevant, but those who want to ignore it can always deflect it away as irrelevant and off-topic

This Holtby shit getting discussed in here has nothing to do with Pettersson and Hughes extensions.


Me wishing this thread wasn’t constantly about Benning is the only place I actually agree with the folks who approve of Benning.

 

[Hyzer]

The clock is ticking and no news yet.

We are getting precipitously close to these 2 gentleman not being available for training camp.

Don't blame them though. If you are going to waste your life on a (possibly) bad team, might as well get that paper

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Can't wait for the holdouts and a shit start to the year.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

This Holtby shit getting discussed in here has nothing to do with Pettersson and Hughes extensions.


Me wishing this thread wasn’t constantly about Benning is the only place I actually agree with the folks who approve of Benning.

Ignore the posts not about Pettersson/Hughes.

It is very simple and easy.

 

[timw33]

Dhaliwal said on the radio this morning that there is nothing to the 8 million dollar rumored deals and there is still lots of work to be done.

It's like somehow worse that there's lots of work to be done vs. being close to signing deals (even if they weren't ideal). We're getting dangerously close to camp and preseason, and Hughes/EP leverage only increases as the team stumbling out of the gate without them looks very bad for management.

 

[82Ninety42011]

I'd try to get Hughes under 8 preferably 7.5 per 8 and call it a day with him. EP if won't go long term I'd stick to 2 year deal max as if given a 3 year deal he could just take his qualifying offer and walk a year later as a UFA. Just want this resolved before the season starts hopefully before camp really.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

The clock is ticking and no news yet.

We are getting precipitously close to these 2 gentleman not being available for training camp.

Don't blame them though. If you are going to waste your life on a (possibly) bad team, might as well get that paper

Every day that passes, Benning loses a bit more ground in terms of leverage. The team needs Pettersson/Hughes a lot more than vice versa.

 

[RussianRacket]

Still confident it will get done.

GO CANUCKS

 

[VanillaCoke]

Are either of them even in Vancouver yet?

Preseason games start in 11 days...

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Can't wait for the holdouts and a shit start to the year.

April 2022 press conference: "Jim, just want to see where you stand after your team finished bottom 5 again and suffered the worst goals against in the NHL this season."

Jim Benning: "Well you know uhhh, we had COVID mess our boys season in 2021 and then the contract dispute derailed all plans for this year. Ummm, you know we have big visions for next year though."

 

[Breakers]

The day before training camp they are thinking

So another week of waiting.

 

[Sneezy]

Every day that passes, Benning loses a bit more ground in terms of leverage. The team needs Pettersson/Hughes a lot more than vice versa.

No he doesn't, each day closer to TC and opening day the players want to get back on the ice. They want to play, they live for the game.

 

[Sneezy]

April 2022 press conference: "Jim, just want to see where you stand after your team finished bottom 5 again and suffered the worst goals against in the NHL this season."

Jim Benning: "Well you know uhhh, we had COVID mess our boys season in 2021 and then the contract dispute derailed all plans for this year. Ummm, you know we have big visions for next year though."

And he delivered, the team has a huge change over and better today than it was last season.

 

[Sneezy]

This Holtby shit getting discussed in here has nothing to do with Pettersson and Hughes extensions.


Me wishing this thread wasn’t constantly about Benning is the only place I actually agree with the folks who approve of Benning.

I think we all want this thread only about QH/EP, yes we can reference some points about JB but some posters have nothing to add except the same thing everyday.

 

[F A N]

Are either of them even in Vancouver yet?

Preseason games start in 11 days...

Hughes was in Michigan as of Sept. 11. Not sure about Petey.

Miller and Boeser are in town though.

 

[hellstick]

Feel like Hughes "owes us one" after burning the 1st year if his contract

 

[timw33]

Feel like Hughes "owes us one" after burning the 1st year if his contract

He doesn't owe us shit.

He didn't accrue a season towards UFA status when he burnt that year, and doesn't have offer sheet rights as a result.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

No he doesn't, each day closer to TC and opening day the players want to get back on the ice. They want to play, they live for the game.

That can be true and the players can also want fair compensation. That’s why they have agents. The Canucks are pretty screwed if they don’t have either of these players when the season starts. The players have all the leverage in this situation. Benning’s job depends on them signing before the season gets hampered by it.

 

[MS]

He doesn't owe us shit.

He didn't accrue a season towards UFA status when he burnt that year, and doesn't have offer sheet rights as a result.

It's an interesting thing with NCAA draft picks that the burning-a-year thing is basically standard now and means that NCAA players are virtually always essentially on 2-year ELCs as opposed to Euro/CHL guys who you get for a full 3 years.

In Hughes' case this is going to cost the team like $7 million in cap space which is a bigger blow than the last year of Eriksson's contract and worth at least a #1 pick. Boeser cost nearly $5 million extra the same way.

If I'm looking at two comparable players with a #1 pick, it's something that has to be factored into the equation. It's a HUGE difference.

 

[F A N]

It's an interesting thing with NCAA draft picks that the burning-a-year thing is basically standard now and means that NCAA players are virtually always essentially on 2-year ELCs as opposed to Euro/CHL guys who you get for a full 3 years.

In Hughes' case this is going to cost the team like $7 million in cap space which is a bigger blow than the last year of Eriksson's contract and worth at least a #1 pick. Boeser cost nearly $5 million extra the same way.

If I'm looking at two comparable players with a #1 pick, it's something that has to be factored into the equation. It's a HUGE difference.

How do you arrive at $7M in cap space? Hughes' ELC cap hit with schedule A bonuses was over $1.775M. If he hit any of his schedule B bonuses (which I think he did) his cap hit is even higher.

Regardless, that's such a wrong way to look at it. Hughes being a 10.2(c) gives him less leverage not only because he has one less year of production to negotiate with but he is not eligible to be offersheeted.

 

[m9]

How do you arrive at $7M in cap space? Hughes' ELC cap hit with schedule A bonuses was over $1.775M. If he hit any of his schedule B bonuses (which I think he did) his cap hit is even higher.

Regardless, that's such a wrong way to look at it. Hughes being a 10.2(c) gives him less leverage not only because he has one less year of production to negotiate with but he is not eligible to be offersheeted.

Good call on the first part with bonuses factored in, but even if it's 5 million or whatever that's still a large amount of space lost for this coming year.