The Nostalgia Thread: Remembering the "Generation X" Era (2001-2006)

Burgs

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Monroeville Mall security!

But for his night job, he plays goal for Dynamo Minsk in the KHL after spending the previous two years in Finland. :)

Two things I remember Andy Chiodo for:

1) He was the guy in net for us when Ric Jackman deflected that Tärnström shot into the Phoenix' goal in OT to end our 17 game losing streak.

2) When he beat up Nittymäki in the Baby Pens-Phantoms game. Tom Grace went pretty much nuts: "And the guy from Finland IS FINISHED!"
 

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-47 from Fata that year? How on God's Green Earth can one human being have a +/- that LOW???

I mean, even I would be hard pressed to achieve that! Remarkable feat of suckage there.
 

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mike eastwood is my least liked pen of all time.

Really? He was one of the only legitimate bottom liners we had during that time frame. Our checking lines usually consisted of AHL scorers who couldn't cut it in the NHL. I was always pretty happy with Eastwood, even if he was nothing more than a 4th liner on one of the worst teams ever assembled.
 

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-47 from Fata that year? How on God's Green Earth can one human being have a +/- that LOW???

I mean, even I would be hard pressed to achieve that! Remarkable feat of suckage there.

well, when you kill every scoring chance you have by going offsides and play no defense, its easier than you think :sarcasm:
 

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Mario would make some crazy passes and people wouldn't even get their stick on it. Morozov, for all his faults, knew how to finish a Mario pass. If they were both completely healthy for a season during that era, Mario would have won another scoring title. Hell he almost won it in 2003 after the trading of Kovalev and morozov going down after the first 20 something games. That was an amazing performance.
 

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Hrdina is in the Swedish Elite League right now putting up significantly less than a point per game. I don't see any real use for him on this team. Not skilled enough anymore for the top 6 or gritty enough for a grinder. Then again, I never did really like him.

I'm not saying he's top 6.

I'm thinking faceoff specialist like a Zigomanis, only with some scoring ability.

moar scary images from the X Gen era:

remember when we had Alexandre the Daigle?
Daigle.jpg



how about when the post gazette tried to convince us that Vladmir Vujtek was a 2nd line guy? Who? Yeah, exactly.:
vujtek.jpg


even worse....
tibbetts.jpg
 
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Mario would make some crazy passes and people wouldn't even get their stick on it. Morozov, for all his faults, knew how to finish a Mario pass. If they were both completely healthy for a season during that era, Mario would have won another scoring title. Hell he almost won it in 2003 after the trading of Kovalev and morozov going down after the first 20 something games. That was an amazing performance.

He did it on a busted hip on top of that, which makes it even more incredible.
 

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I'm not saying he's top 6.

I'm thinking faceoff specialist like a Zigomanis, only with some scoring ability.

moar scary images from the X Gen era:

remember when we had Alexandre the Daigle?
Daigle.jpg



how about when the post gazette tried to convince us that Vladmir Vujtek was a 2nd line guy? Who? Yeah, exactly.:
vujtek.jpg


even worse....
tibbetts.jpg

lol, I was actually pretty excited at the time with the acquisition of Daigle. Daigle may have been a first round bust, but that didn't mean he didn't have a decent skill set, and on top of that he was only like 27 years old at the time. Needless to say I got my hopes up...
 

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Mario would make some crazy passes and people wouldn't even get their stick on it. Morozov, for all his faults, knew how to finish a Mario pass. If they were both completely healthy for a season during that era, Mario would have won another scoring title. Hell he almost won it in 2003 after the trading of Kovalev and morozov going down after the first 20 something games. That was an amazing performance.
I remember that about 1/3 of the way into that season, Mario was averaging nearly 2 points per game. Then they traded Kovalev, Morozov went down, and Lemieux suffered injuries in the latter part of the season. Seeing him dominate the league for that first half of the season was something else, though. He still almost won the scoring title despite all of those setbacks.
 

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-47 from Fata that year? How on God's Green Earth can one human being have a +/- that LOW???

I mean, even I would be hard pressed to achieve that! Remarkable feat of suckage there.

Believe it or not the NHL record for all time worst +/- is something like -70, which was set by a player during the 70's. Can't really remember his name, or what team he played for though. I think it might've been for the Isles prior to their Stanley Cup years.

As for Fata, the guy just plain sucked. All he had going for him was a good set of wheels, but other than that he was completely useless. Offensively he could move the puck into the zone with his speed, only to end up coughing it up because he had absolutely no vision or creativity. Defensively he was an even bigger joke. To make matters worse CP was even crazy enough to draft his younger brother. :shakehead
 

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Believe it or not the NHL record for all time worst +/- is something like -70, which was set by a player during the 70's. Can't really remember his name, or what team he played for though. I think it might've been for the Isles prior to their Stanley Cup years.

As for Fata, the guy just plain sucked. All he had going for him was a good set of wheels, but other than that he was completely useless. Offensively he could move the puck into the zone with his speed, only to end up coughing it up because he had absolutely no vision or creativity. Defensively he was an even bigger joke. To make matters worse CP was even crazy enough to draft his younger brother. :shakehead

Haha, although Drew was drafted before Rico was acquired. He seemed like an OK prospect to me; he just didn't pan out.

Rico, on the other hand... good god. Koltsov minus the defense.
 

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Haha, although Drew was drafted before Rico was acquired. He seemed like an OK prospect to me; he just didn't pan out.

Rico, on the other hand... good god. Koltsov minus the defense.

Almost scary to think that Rico was drafted first overall eh? That was definitely a rough period for the Flames, who got burnt by first drafting Daniel Tzaczuk, then by drafting Fata a year later. Both were top 10 picks, and both turned out to absolutely SUCK. I even know a guy that played with Fata in Europe that said that he was nothing more than a really good skater that was usually lost most of the time on the ice. Just goes to show that it takes a lot more than good physical ability to be able to excel in this game.
 

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Believe it or not the NHL record for all time worst +/- is something like -70, which was set by a player during the 70's. Can't really remember his name, or what team he played for though. I think it might've been for the Isles prior to their Stanley Cup years.

It's even worse. Bill Mikkelson has the record at -82, from the Caps first season where they won only 9 games. Btw, the plus record is Bobby Orr's at a mindboggling +124 in the early 70s.
 

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I remember that about 1/3 of the way into that season, Mario was averaging nearly 2 points per game. Then they traded Kovalev, Morozov went down, and Lemieux suffered injuries in the latter part of the season. Seeing him dominate the league for that first half of the season was something else, though. He still almost won the scoring title despite all of those setbacks.

ya, haha I remember being disgusted by his "lack of production", then I looked and he still scored like 30 points in the last 28 games with players such as toby peterson on his line, and that other guy we got from the rangers.... I completely forget his name.
At the end, Mario always seemed to want to play with speed.
 

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I remember when the acquisition of Lasse Pirjeta was considered to be an excellent move by CP.

It was an excellent move, Brian Holzinger was a lazy pile of crap. Holzinger is probably my second most hated Pen of all time, behind Billy Tibbetts, of course.
 

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Yeah, the start of 02-03 was fun to watch. Tarnstrom was around a point per game, Hrdina had about 10 goals in 20 games, Morozov was over a ppg, Kovalev was in the top 3 in scoring and Lemieux was head and shoulders above everyone else. Then, Tarnstrom got hurt for a while, Morozov broke his wrist during that Leafs game when he was checked into the boards, Hrdina started slumping, as did the PP. Mario and Kovy were still playing great though, even when Steve McKenna was on their line during the Boston game. He scored 2 goals, Lemieux had 4 assists (including his 1000th) and Kovy had 2 goals and 4 points too. It looked like Lemieux could become the oldest player to win the Art Ross. Then kovalev was traded for $4 million and a bag of steaming dog crap that CP said "made the team better" while choking back tears, Mario got hurt and would later finish the season playing on a line with Eric Meloche and Lefebvre.

I still remember watching that game against San Jose where I believe the Penguins lost, but Lemieux had 2 goals that game and just looked so dominant. I don't think I ever saw him play another game at that level since then.
 

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It's even worse. Bill Mikkelson has the record at -82, from the Caps first season where they won only 9 games. Btw, the plus record is Bobby Orr's at a mindboggling +124 in the early 70s.

I think you could put Bobby Orr on the ice by himself during that era and he still would've finished the game in the +'s. What a player...
 

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I remember when the acquisition of Lasse Pirjeta was considered to be an excellent move by CP.


CP also thought that Jamie Pushor was a great acquisition simply because he knew how to block shots.

In all honesty though, as much as we heckle CP for some of the moves he made during this era, you really can't blame the guy too much. He was GM of a bargain basement club (at the time) with relatively no financial leverage to work with. He did what he could, with whatever means he had in order to put out the best possible team. Unfortunately we ended up getting stuck with a team full of first round flops, and over the hill veterans that no one else wanted anymore.

LONG LIVE STEPHAN RICHER! :yo:
 
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Can someone tell me what happened to Tomas Surovy?

He's playing in the Swedish Elite Leauge now...although I was hoping someone might take a chance on him...I thought he was a guy that needed a center to help set him up...for awhile he was "the" scoring threat on the team...but I was delusional then...I thought Kraft, Beech, & co would finally live up to their drafting positions and start to put points on the board.........who would have thought RIC JACKMAN would be the one to salvage us from an 18 game losing streak
 

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I even know a guy that played with Fata in Europe that said that he was nothing more than a really good skater that was usually lost most of the time on the ice.

:laugh: Would you mind telling me which player that was? Fata used to play for my local hockey team in Germany for about 2 years. He even sucked in the DEL. :laugh:

Right now, he is putting up some points in Switzerland, though.
 

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