OT: The Habs Lounge Thread XIII: This is NOT a thread about bees and wasps

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waffledave

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So can someone explain the situation in Greece. I dont understand it.

I am Greek.

There are a lot of issues that stem from both social and political problems. Greeks are entitled, and for too long the way of life there has been way too relaxed. Nobody likes to work, and people retire and live off their pensions way too early. Sometimes entire families live off the pensions of the grandparents. That or they work government jobs and get paid for doing nothing (similar to here in Quebec where government jobs are basically work-for-welfare). They get by because they hire immigrants and pay them basically slave wages, and then turn around and complain that immigrants steal all the jobs.

Politically, the system is extremely corrupt. It's pretty much as corrupt as can be. People stopped paying taxes because of all the BS so the government has no money. Everything can be accomplished under the table, from building permits to skipping duties on imports. It's all done with bribes. For too long the EU has been propping Greece up when they never should have been in the EU in the first place. All their infrastructure was built by other countries, so they have shiny new toys and everyone figures they are well off.

Honestly I don't know how they are going to fix this. The government has been cutting spending because they have no money, the people complain because it means they can't live off handouts anymore. Everyone's become too lazy and undisciplined to actually work because they haven't had to do it for too long. And worst of all, they don't feel they have to. Because of course, Greece has done soooo much for the world, we invented ****ing everything, you guys should pay our way forever and be grateful for all we've done.

It's the fact that they'll likely depart from the Euro. The drachma is worth jack ****, and their economy is already really bad as it is. Leaving the euro will make it worse.

It won't happen. They will continue to get bailed out by the EU because it'll cost less than the hit the Euro will take if Greece leaves.
 

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Bah. I remember doing an oral presentation about the economic crisis in Europe for a politics class in CEGEP.
 

M.C.G. 31

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I am Greek.

There are a lot of issues that stem from both social and political problems. Greeks are entitled, and for too long the way of life there has been way too relaxed. Nobody likes to work, and people retire and live off their pensions way too early. Sometimes entire families live off the pensions of the grandparents. That or they work government jobs and get paid for doing nothing (similar to here in Quebec where government jobs are basically work-for-welfare). They get by because they hire immigrants and pay them basically slave wages, and then turn around and complain that immigrants steal all the jobs.

Politically, the system is extremely corrupt. It's pretty much as corrupt as can be. People stopped paying taxes because of all the BS so the government has no money. Everything can be accomplished under the table, from building permits to skipping duties on imports. It's all done with bribes. For too long the EU has been propping Greece up when they never should have been in the EU in the first place. All their infrastructure was built by other countries, so they have shiny new toys and everyone figures they are well off.

Honestly I don't know how they are going to fix this. The government has been cutting spending because they have no money, the people complain because it means they can't live off handouts anymore. Everyone's become too lazy and undisciplined to actually work because they haven't had to do it for too long. And worst of all, they don't feel they have to. Because of course, Greece has done soooo much for the world, we invented ****ing everything, you guys should pay our way forever and be grateful for all we've done.



It won't happen. They will continue to get bailed out by the EU because it'll cost less than the hit the Euro will take if Greece leaves.

Yeah I don't think they'll leave in the end. European markets were down big time yesterday and will be worse if Greece leaves.

55 year old retirements lmao. If you made and saved your own money (like my grandfather; saved so much he lived off his savings for 10 years) sure, but living off pensions from the government that long? No.


More generations than we can imagine will be ****ed by this unless they can somehow find a major export that'll make them a lot of money.
 

Alexdaman

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You're the one that's angry. Look at your avi. Cheer up m8.

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This obsession with ferrets is creepy. If I had to choose someone on this board to become a serial killer it would be Alexdaman, after Zaide of course.
 

Alexdaman

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This obsession with ferrets is creepy. If I had to choose someone on this board to become a serial killer it would be Alexdaman, after Zaide of course.

If I had choose anyone to be the most naive in this board it would you for sure. Take it as a compliment I guess, ferret hater.
 
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