Proposal: The Det Collector: TOR + BUF + DET

[Martin Skoula]

Be that as it may, I wouldn't want these players on my roster with those cap hits if I were running a team, so we'll just agree to disagree...

It still doesn't explain how you think a broken down Okposo with 4 years left only costs a 2nd to dump but 2 guys who can actually still play somehow cost more than 2-3 times that 2nd to dump.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Leafs get hosed and the Sabres make out like bandits

 

[Beerz]

Be that as it may, I can't see Buffalo passing on this deal...

I really have no desire to get rid of Okposo ..but yeah..its a pretty plush deal for us considering his contract. I'd have to know what the other contracts are (kerfoot and Joh

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Maybe in your vision for how the cap should be utilized, but not in mine...

That's cool. Agree to disagree then.

 

[Beerz]

It still doesn't explain how you think a broken down Okposo with 4 years left only costs a 2nd to dump but 2 guys who can actually still play somehow cost more than 2-3 times that 2nd to dump.

Sabres aren't desperate for cap space

And KO can still play. He just isn't a 6 million dollar player

 

[Pyrophorus]

I think there is something here that could happen around this idea but it needs to be tweaked to make sense for Toronto

Maybe they get Montour?

Good first step.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Sabres aren't desperate for cap space

Oh if desperation is a factor they should be paying us 1sts for our middle-6ers considering how desperate they are for NHL level forwards behind Eichel.

 

[Beerz]

Oh if desperation is a factor they should be paying us 1sts for our middle-6ers considering how desperate they are for NHL level forwards behind Eichel.

Nah.. when we get to the playoffs we at least want to win a round.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

[QUOTEdumping Okposo's contract
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With Pegulas going cheap, dumping Okposo won't get you as much. He's only owed $12 M over three years.The $6 million cap hit is horrible but I'm not sure that matters. Sadly.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Nah.. when we get to the playoffs we at least want to win a round.

That's fair, Kerfoot only has another 3 years on his contract.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

If Toronto did this and signed Petro with the cap space it'd be a steal for them, otherwise the motivation to do this trade wouldn't be there

 

[Dr Quincy]

Leafs out: #15, Kerfoot, Johnsson

Even in flat cap world Kerfoot and Johnsson have "some" value.

 

[ToDavid]

If Toronto did this and signed Petro with the cap space it'd be a steal for them, otherwise the motivation to do this trade wouldn't be there

That should have nothing to do with it. Even if we use the cap space to sign the perfect player, it's a bad trade because we could have easily moved these players in better trades with the same outcome.

 

[Perennial]

It still doesn't explain how you think a broken down Okposo with 4 years left only costs a 2nd to dump but 2 guys who can actually still play somehow cost more than 2-3 times that 2nd to dump.

Okposo only has 3 years left...

And players have different value to different teams...

Okposo on Detroit isn't a big deal for them since they're rebuilding

Kerfoot and Johnsson take up too much valuable cap space on Toronto, however, a team like Buffalo might welcome their addition given they're not a destination for high end free-agents...

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

capdump Okposo @$6M for 3 years!! & all the Red Wings get is a mid 1st?? Beyond bad for DET.

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Yeah... no. Toronto bows out of this, but only because it's horrible. Thanks anyways for the consideration.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Okposo only has 3 years left...

And players have different value to different teams...

Okposo on Detroit isn't a big deal for them since they're rebuilding

Kerfoot and Johnsson take up too much valuable cap space on Toronto, however, a team like Buffalo might welcome their addition given they're not a destination for high end free-agents...

So why not dump Kerfoot and Johnsson to Detroit at the cost of a 2nd instead?

Even using your own bad logic that Kerfoot and Johnsson need sweeteners to dump, the trade is still inconsistent lmao.

 

[Perennial]

capdump Okposo @$6M for 3 years!! & all the Red Wings get is a mid 1st?? Beyond bad for DET.

Okposo's cap hit is 6 million, but he's owed less in real money...

These are the kinds of deals a rebuilding team like Detroit should be making...

How else do you expect to land a mid 1st in a strong draft?

 

[Perennial]

So why not dump Kerfoot and Johnsson to Detroit at the cost of a 2nd instead?

Even using your own bad logic that Kerfoot and Johnsson need sweeteners to dump, the trade is still inconsistent lmao.

Because a rebuilding team like Detroit shouldn't be giving up a 2nd for those types of players...

Or, are you saying the Leafs should trade a 2nd along with Kerfoot and Johnsson to Detroit?

Either way, I don't think Detroit would take them on for just a 2nd rounder... I certainly wouldn't if I were running them

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Lol, the Leafs give up the three best assets.

Nah, pick #187 comes with Hakan Andersson’s analysis of the best players available.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Because a rebuilding team like Detroit shouldn't be giving up a 2nd for those types of players...

No the same 2nd that you think it costs to dump Okposo's abortion of a contract. Surely Detroit would rather get a 2nd for two guys who can actually play and that they could trade for more picks as rentals instead of Okposo.

Even if we accept your flawed premise that it costs assets to dump Kerfoot and Johnsson, the trade still makes absolutely 0 sense.

 

[Team Cozens]

How bad do you think Dubas is?

Very bad.

 

[Perennial]

No the same 2nd that you think it costs to dump Okposo's abortion of a contract. Surely Detroit would rather get a 2nd for two guys who can actually play and that they could trade for more picks as rentals instead of Okposo.

Even if we accept your flawed premise that it costs assets to dump Kerfoot and Johnsson, the trade still makes absolutely 0 sense.

I don't share your opinion on their value...

No sense continuing to go in circles about it

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Okposo's cap hit is 6 million, but he's owed less in real money...

These are the kinds of deals a rebuilding team like Detroit should be making...

How else do you expect to land a mid 1st in a strong draft?

I doubt the Ilitches care much about the actual cost.

The money they’ll make up for icing a winning team in Detroit far exceeds it.

 

[Perennial]

I doubt the Ilitches care much about the actual cost.

The money they’ll make up for icing a winning team in Detroit far exceeds it.

The best way for Detroit to start icing a winning team is to acquire picks in a strong draft...