Proposal: The Det Collector: TOR + BUF + DET

[Perennial]

Leafs out: #15, Kerfoot, Johnsson
Leafs in: #38, #187

Sabres out: #38, Okposo
Sabres in: Kerfoot, Johnsson

Red Wings out: #187
Red Wings in: #15, Okposo


Toronto get an early 2nd round pick while also clearing enough salary to make a serious push for Pietrangelo

Buffalo add some needed depth while also dumping Okposo's contract

Detroit add the #15 pick in a strong draft

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[CantLoseWithMatthews]

did you forget some pieces going to the Leafs or something? Downgrading their roster to move back in the draft seems incredibly stupid

 

[PullHard]

I think there is something here that could happen around this idea but it needs to be tweaked to make sense for Toronto

Maybe they get Montour?

 

[BAM]

Why wouldn't the Leafs just trade Kerfoot and Johnsson on their own. That frees up cap space and allows them to horde the picks. You just saw what Kapanen got. Even if Kerfoot and Johnsson don't get that kind of return, they're still assets that can bring back futures while freeing up space.

 

[Martin Skoula]

So the cost to dump a 6 million dollar albatross is a 2nd round pick, but the cost to "dump" two productive middle 6 players on market value deals is 15th overall, makes sense.

 

[Ishad]

8th for Okposo and you can leave Toronto out of this.

 

[4thline]

So the cost to dump a 6 million dollar albatross is a 2nd round pick, but the cost to "dump" two productive middle 6 players on market value deals is 15th overall, makes sense.

It's the trade version of revenue sharing. Big market teams pay the others literal bills, why not in trade as well?

 

[Martin Skoula]

It's the trade version of revenue sharing. Big market teams pay the others literal bills, why not in trade as well?

As long as any non-MTL or NYR cup wins are considered joint Leafs wins I'm ok with that.

 

[Perennial]

So the cost to dump a 6 million dollar albatross is a 2nd round pick, but the cost to "dump" two productive middle 6 players on market value deals is 15th overall, makes sense.

I see Kerfoot and Johnsson as cap dumps, not "productive middle 6 players on market value deals"

 

[Masked Superstar]

How bad do you think Dubas is?

 

[Martin Skoula]

I see Kerfoot and Johnsson as cap dumps, not "productive middle 6 players on market value deals"

So why would Buffalo trade 1 cap dump + 2nd for 2 cap dumps with a bigger collective cap hit?

Just take the loss, it's a terrible trade for Toronto lol. I'd love to see your explanation for Okposo being literally twice as cheap to dump as guys who are cheaper, younger, and more productive.

 

[Perennial]

I think there is something here that could happen around this idea but it needs to be tweaked to make sense for Toronto

Maybe they get Montour?

The idea is to clear enough salary to sign Pietrangelo... so I'm not sure adding Montour's salary would allow for that

 

[Perennial]

So why would Buffalo trade 1 cap dump + 2nd for 2 cap dumps with a bigger collective cap hit?

Just take the loss, it's a terrible trade for Toronto lol.

The Sabres are only adding 900k to their cap with those 2 players... and one of those players can fill a much needed role at center

 

[tsujimoto74]

The Sabres are only adding 900k to their cap with those 2 players... and one of those players can fill a much needed role at center

Well, he can play center. I'd hardly describe Kerfoot as being able to really fill the role we need there.

 

[Martin Skoula]

The Sabres are only adding 900k to their cap with those 2 players... and one of those players can fill a much needed role at center

So how about the Sabers dump Okposo on their own and then trade for Kerfoot to fill their much needed role at center. Look at that, problem solved without needing to trade a 1st for literally nothing.

 

[Perennial]

So how about the Sabers dump Okposo on their own and then trade for Kerfoot to fill their much needed role at center. Look at that, problem solved without needing to trade a 1st for literally nothing.

They're trading a 1st for cap space... cap space that can then be used to sign Pietrangelo

 

[Perennial]

Well, he can play center. I'd hardly describe Kerfoot as being able to really fill the role we need there.

Be that as it may, I can't see Buffalo passing on this deal...

 

[Martin Skoula]

They're trading a 1st for cap space... cap space that can then be used to sign Pietrangelo

Yeah nah, they can trade those two for positive assets. Thinking that you need 15th overall to "dump" decent middle 6ers making middle 6 money is insane.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

They're trading a 1st for cap space... cap space that can then be used to sign Pietrangelo

Both toronto players are worth their cap. Its a bad trade for the leafs.

 

[Perennial]

Yeah nah, they can trade those two for positive assets. Thinking that you need 15th overall to "dump" decent middle 6ers making middle 6 money is insane.

And what would those trades look like? The ones that net the Leafs positive value for Kerfoot and Johnsson...

 

[Perennial]

Both toronto players are worth their cap. Its a bad trade for the leafs.

Maybe in your vision for how the cap should be utilized, but not in mine...

 

[Martin Skoula]

And what would those trades look like? The ones that net the Leafs positive value for Kerfoot and Johnsson...

Proposal: - Tor cap clearing trades

Here you go, fans of other teams happy to offer a 2nd-4th for Johnsson and even a 7th for Kerfoot would be better than the garbage you suggested.

 

[Leafs87]

I think there is something here that could happen around this idea but it needs to be tweaked to make sense for Toronto

Maybe they get Montour?

Yes now it makes sense to trade the 1st. So essentially Kap and AJ for Montour and a downgrade in the pick we got. Montour isn’t going to even be qualified by buffalo based on another thread this week...

 

[Mickey Marner]

Lol, the Leafs give up the three best assets.

 

[Perennial]

Proposal: - Tor cap clearing trades

Here you go, fans of other teams happy to offer a 2nd-4th for Johnsson and even a 7th for Kerfoot would be better than the garbage you suggested.

Be that as it may, I wouldn't want these players on my roster with those cap hits if I were running a team, so we'll just agree to disagree...