The David Conte & Lou Draft complaint thread

[zharkenby]

Complain about conte here, let's actually talk about our new prospects in the other threads. I do agree with whoever said conte is sabotaging our organization BTW.

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[Devilsfan992]

It feels like that over the last few years that a Devils have had a "Static Strategy" going into these drafts...

First round - go for a tough two-way forward with 2nd line upside
Second round - go for a safe but mature defensemen that has national experience
3rd-7th round - Pick 1 or 2 goons, 1 inconsistent forward, 1 unknown player with upside

 

[KovalSNIPE]

I don't think I've ever been more disappointed with our scouting staff.

 

[zharkenby]

I don't think I've ever been more disappointed with our scouting staff.

Agreed, why are we even paying European scouts if we don't even consider European players?

 

[Devils Trap]

Outside of Dudek and Quenneville im not happy

 

[The Beaver]

The franchise needs a breath of fresh air in the scouting department. I didn't hate the draft (didn't like it either) but it was way too predictable with really no risks being made and safe picks being made like always.

 

[Japam]

Someone here already said it; it feels like he's making "clever" picks than BPA picks. I really wonder who they would've selected if they didn't trade their pick last year.

 

[tycobb]

Assets: Has terrific hands, creativity, shiftiness, skating ability and the potential for great plays every time he's on the ice. Owns the size all NHL teams crave from the center position. Is responsible in his own end.
Flaws: Is not a physical player, despite his massive frame. Must continue to work on his offensive consistency, something he's counted on for. Could stand to become a little more assertive on offense.
Career Potential: Mega talented scoring center with upside.

Above is Kopitar writeup from the hockey news. Nothing about becoming a dominant defensive center.

 

[Bleedred]

We've had quite a few European players that haven't worked out in the last 10 years. Tedenby, Josefson, then other guys who were later round picks. I wonder if that's why they aren't drafting Euros? Possibility.

I've thought Conte has sucked for about 10 years now, so you won't hear me defend the guy much. I thought he sucked before it was cool to think he sucks.

 

[NJD1982]

Harris/Blitzer are not Vanderbeek, they will make moves if it helps the team. I think Lou's retirement will be in the next 2-3 years and we will see a clearing house of Conte and all of Lou's guys.

 

[JimEIV]

Someone here already said it; it feels like he's making "clever" picks than BPA picks. I really wonder who they would've selected if they didn't trade their pick last year.

I'm almost positive one of Conte's strategies is to take project picks in a draft he deems weak. He has always had a tendency to pick players with either one strong attribute or a plurality of good ones in a weak draft.

I think this what we saw in 2014...I think the idea was to find overlooked attributes in a draft that seemed to be very vanilla.

 

[NJDevs26]

Someone here already said it; it feels like he's making "clever" picks than BPA picks. I really wonder who they would've selected if they didn't trade their pick last year.

Clever? Hardly I'd say the opposite, they've been utterly predictable, or like someone else said basically static. This would have been a good draft in the late '90's but not so much now.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Thank you for starting this thread.

I'll post later when a collect my thoughts (and the soccer game is over).

 

[Devils090]

sick of the safe two way player crap

get some freakin speed and scoring

 

[Bcap88]

passing on barbashev will hurt

 

[Devils Dominion]

passing on barbashev will hurt

Hope not but its likely.

Macinnis will be a force too.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

sick of the safe two way player crap

get some freakin speed and scoring

I agree. But the team has a certain DNA, how much speed and scoring did they really bypass today?

Moar Tendenby and less Matteau.

What is Boucher?

 

[tycobb]

I agree. But the team has a certain DNA, how much speed and scoring did they really bypass today?

Moar Tendenby and less Matteau.

What is Boucher?

Skating is what could keep him from being a NHL regular.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Zach Parise was a poor skater until he was a 2nd year NHL player at 23 years old.

 

[JimEIV]

I agree. But the team has a certain DNA

That is the thing though, a Lemieux and a McInnis fit our DNA AND address needs...McInnis is essentially the same as the Quennville pick but you get him in the 2nd round while adding a scoring forward with your 1st pick.

 

[Bcap88]

That is the thing though, a Lemieux and a McInnis fit our DNA AND address needs...McInnis is essentially the same as the Quennville pick but you get him in the 2nd round while adding a scoring forward with your 1st pick.

Jim, Whats your thoughts on Barbashev out of curiosity

 

[Devils Army]

Skating is what could keep him from being a NHL regular.

I think he will an NHL regular, his skating is what determines him from being Ryder or what makes him a stud

 

[tr83]

Maybe the red hair dye is ravaging his neurons

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

That is the thing though, a Lemieux and a McInnis fit our DNA AND address needs...McInnis is essentially the same as the Quennville pick but you get him in the 2nd round while adding a scoring forward with your 1st pick.

For the record, I wanted Lemieux. These kids get interviewed. Why did St. Louis pass on Al's son? How about Colorado and Montreal?

Now, the TSN panel made it seem like the Devils have had their eyes on Jacobs from the US development team when Santini and Matteau were there.

 

[Devils Army]

People keep talking about how it was still a fine pick for a two way center/winger, but Barbashev is a two center/winger as well, but I even more skilled, he is going to be great for the Blues, they just got a second Tarasenko in the second round