The Claude Julien & Michel Therrien poll thread
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hockeyfan2k11
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SirClintonPortis
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Julien is the better coach. Therrien still hasn't figured out how to fix the PP (DD remains on the first wave even though he is emasculating the first wave with his pass-first habits, Beaulieu is stuck in limbo), and Therrien will be slow to make adjustments. And the Bruins seem more competent at playing defense. Krug and Hamilton are playing, while Coach T rides Bouillon.
MasterDecoy
Who took my beer?
**** that fat *******. I'm Impressed with what that fat ******* has done with the bruins but he also has much better player than therein does. Separate from his in game coaching ability, he knows which buttons to push to get the best out Of his players. He Still doesn't know how to reign them in however.
I'd still take Martin over therein but can't deny the results rispek got this year and last
I'd still take Martin over therein but can't deny the results rispek got this year and last
groovejuice
Without deviation progress is not possible
Fortunately, the players will have more to say about the outcome than the coaches.
Claude's predeliction to perpetrate Broonesque fairytales in media will bite him on the arse. "We never dive, we're clean and exhibit exemplary sportsmanship"...ad nauseum.
Stuff is from the Wizard of Oz or Alice in Wonderland.
Claude's predeliction to perpetrate Broonesque fairytales in media will bite him on the arse. "We never dive, we're clean and exhibit exemplary sportsmanship"...ad nauseum.
Stuff is from the Wizard of Oz or Alice in Wonderland.
coachRD
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100% agree with this! I can't stand his crying every single game, but this was just disgusting.
JLP
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Congratulations on those that feel they need to abstain. We're in a war now... As much as possible, we need to circle the wagons...
This. Have been critical of MT and some of our roster choices, but it's the playoffs second round versus our most-hated rival so it's time to put that aside and play the hand we have!
Even if I think that CJ is a better coach, I'd rather have MT.
I like how MT can bring the guys together and he does bring respect to the guys. I just don't think that Claude Julien's attitude isn't good long term if you're trying to develop young players. You don't want a whiny coach developping players.
I like how MT can bring the guys together and he does bring respect to the guys. I just don't think that Claude Julien's attitude isn't good long term if you're trying to develop young players. You don't want a whiny coach developping players.
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Real result will be after the series. Expectations is that Boston wins this. Easily or not.....we don't know. Yet, if Therrien brings that to game 6 or 7 and with tight games all the way....he will have done his share. But it better not be one-sided. 'Cause what would have happened against TBay would have NO meaning whatsoever.
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He was sticking up for his players. I can't fault a coach for that, no matter how wrong he is. Wish Therrien did more of that. Some Habs fans struggle with being the least bit objective. How on earth is Therrien a better coach?
Yeah, CJ has done a terrible job developing young players such as Hamilton, Krug, R Smith, etc...
He whines in front of the camera as do most coaches do, but I think hes pretty straight up guy who takes his job seriously. The whiniest coach in the league I think is Boudreau and Julien is miles better than him.
Canadiens Ghost
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Yup, I have zero respect for Julien. He is one of, if not the biggest hypocrite in the league. He might be a better coach than Therrien but I would never want to see him again in the Habs organization.
one thing is for sure, we'll get a great indication of MT's ability as a coach in watching the team perform in the first 2-3 games of the series.
give a strong coach the extra pep time, and you'll see a team come out with a very structured & effective team game.
regardless of the scoreboard result through the first few games, how well the habs perform/execute should make MT's coaching acumen plain to see for all of us
give a strong coach the extra pep time, and you'll see a team come out with a very structured & effective team game.
regardless of the scoreboard result through the first few games, how well the habs perform/execute should make MT's coaching acumen plain to see for all of us
I'm far from a MT supporter but I voted for him. My reasoning is fairly simple.
Our coach isn't better at coaching than CJ is, but ask yourself, aside from the year they won the cup (where btw, he was on thin ice) why have the Bruins always struggled in terms of blowing leads/series' against weaker opposition?
My answer is this: excuses. Michel Therrien may not be the best coach in the league, but there is one thing he does understand better than Julien and better than a lot of coaches in this league.
You CANNOT under any circumstances make excuses! A coach is supposed to be the adult in the room (yes, I know hockey players are adults, you know what I meant) and when your own coach is blaming your lack of success on anything other than himself and the team, it sends the wrong message.
These are hockey players, grown men. They don't need their coach making excuses for their poor play, or for losing a game. It shows he cannot accept responsibility for a loss nor can his team. It causes a trickle down effect and guys like Marchand lose accountability, their coach is simply brushing off the teams issues and problems with excuses, and all they are is excuses.
People can give MT all the flack they want about his coaching skills, much of it is legitimate, but one thing you cannot discredit him on is being a human being with a solid structure in his life. He doesn't accept excuses, excuses are what they are, just an excuse. He doesn't actively try to discredit the opponent, blame the refs, blame anything but those who are at fault. At the end of the day players win hockey games, not referees.
When it comes to game 7, I want the coach who tells it like it is, not the guy who wipes their ***** when they take a ****. Julien's style of excusing his players/team may work well in the regular season, and he even won a cup after multiple game 7's, but make no mistake his excuses have held that team back far more than they've pushed them forward, it's only the fact that he is a good coach aside from that that keeps them winning.
Long story short, MT might not be a better coach, but I'll take the winning mentality over the whiner mentality in a 7 game series between bitter rivals.
Our coach isn't better at coaching than CJ is, but ask yourself, aside from the year they won the cup (where btw, he was on thin ice) why have the Bruins always struggled in terms of blowing leads/series' against weaker opposition?
My answer is this: excuses. Michel Therrien may not be the best coach in the league, but there is one thing he does understand better than Julien and better than a lot of coaches in this league.
You CANNOT under any circumstances make excuses! A coach is supposed to be the adult in the room (yes, I know hockey players are adults, you know what I meant) and when your own coach is blaming your lack of success on anything other than himself and the team, it sends the wrong message.
These are hockey players, grown men. They don't need their coach making excuses for their poor play, or for losing a game. It shows he cannot accept responsibility for a loss nor can his team. It causes a trickle down effect and guys like Marchand lose accountability, their coach is simply brushing off the teams issues and problems with excuses, and all they are is excuses.
People can give MT all the flack they want about his coaching skills, much of it is legitimate, but one thing you cannot discredit him on is being a human being with a solid structure in his life. He doesn't accept excuses, excuses are what they are, just an excuse. He doesn't actively try to discredit the opponent, blame the refs, blame anything but those who are at fault. At the end of the day players win hockey games, not referees.
When it comes to game 7, I want the coach who tells it like it is, not the guy who wipes their ***** when they take a ****. Julien's style of excusing his players/team may work well in the regular season, and he even won a cup after multiple game 7's, but make no mistake his excuses have held that team back far more than they've pushed them forward, it's only the fact that he is a good coach aside from that that keeps them winning.
Long story short, MT might not be a better coach, but I'll take the winning mentality over the whiner mentality in a 7 game series between bitter rivals.
