The Assistant Coaches

[Ace Rimmer]

God knows what Gelinas was doing all this time

Teaching leg day. Wish I could find that picture.

 

[Fig]

We indirectly added Kirk Maclean. Dinosaurs behind the bench I tell ya!

 

[Lunatik]

I'll reserve judgment until I see how the Flames perform. Muller wasn't too popular with Habs fans towards the end but like players, I think coaches need the right fit too.

 

[crackdown44]

Love Muller. Love this

 

[Souker]

Keep him away from your PP lol

 

[lightstorm]

Kirk Muller is a great hockey mind. Great add.

Cail did a really good job with the players he was given IMO. They were really young in comparison with other AHL teams.

Kirk Muller is so great that he coached Carolina to impressive records:

0.544 in 2014-15
0.438 in 2015-16
0.506 in 2016-17

out of playoffs all three years of course, only to be replaced by one Bill Peters.

He should fit right in.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Muller was a pretty miserable head coach. Would be another Ward if Sutter ever missed time.

Shame that Huska is still apparently employed.

 

[Jihadi Flames Fan]

Doesn't matter who the coaches are. They're going nowhere until they fix the roster.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I’m really happy about Muller. I’ve always liked him as a coach. I think he will be a good assistant under Darryl.

 

[DFF]

I’m really happy about Muller. I’ve always liked him as a coach. I think he will be a good assistant under Darryl.

What do you like about him as a coach?

He pretty much sucks at hockey as a head coach.

 

[beakerboy]

Wasn't Muller in charge of the Montreal power play when it was absolutely horrible?

 

[Nanuuk]

Great signing. Sutter and Muller's experience will be needed. Either to get more out of our existing core or to help jell the new one.

It is also succession planning..

 

[crackdown44]

What do you like about him as a coach?

He pretty much sucks at hockey as a head coach.

Always been my opinion that an assistant coach is more about player relations. You need someone more approachable with Sutter in the head coach position. Muller is a great fit for that imo

Wasn't Muller in charge of the Montreal power play when it was absolutely horrible?

When Jordan Weal was their best option as the bumper top circle? Yes that powerplay sucked

 

[Lunatik]

Wasn't Muller in charge of the Montreal power play when it was absolutely horrible?

That really doesn't mean much, different systems work with different players.

 

[DFF]

Wasn't Muller in charge of the Montreal power play when it was absolutely horrible?

Yes, but apparently the Flames players are so good, it’s not a problem even if he is clueless

 

[DFF]

Always been my opinion that an assistant coach is more about player relations. You need someone more approachable with Sutter in the head coach position. Muller is a great fit for that imo

ah just another nice guy

 

[crackdown44]

ah just another nice guy

I mean what do you want me to tell you. He’s won a cup as a player, tons of coaching experience and he’s coming in as an assistant and you’re judging him off a few rough years as a head coach?

I agree we should just hire assistant coaches who have won multiple cups as head coaches. I’m sure there are plenty of those available

Because after massive success as a head coach, people tend to revert back to being assistants for less pay and responsibility. Player relations is an important part of an assistant coaches job whether you like it or not

Though you do strike me as the type that wants 3 Mike Keenans behind the bench lol

 

[DFF]

I mean what do you want me to tell you. He’s won a cup as a player, tons of coaching experience and he’s coming in as an assistant and you’re judging him off a few rough years as a head coach?

I agree we should just hire assistant coaches who have won multiple cups as head coaches. I’m sure there are plenty of those available

Because after massive success as a head coach, people tend to revert back to being assistants for less pay and responsibility. Player relations is an important part of an assistant coaches job whether you like it or not

Though you do strike me as the type that wants 3 Mike Keenans behind the bench lol

Great player, horrible coach

that’s all I am saying.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Great signing. Sutter and Muller's experience will be needed. Either to get more out of our existing core or to help jell the new one.

It is also succession planning..

I agree with this as well, I could 100% see Muller taking over from Darryl in 2 years time. I think its likely we will have a younger core then as well.

Also I think Muller is just an excellent hockey mind, I know he's extremely well respected in the hockey world and I do not think he has found the right fit for him to this point. I am very happy he is on the Flames, I have wanted him as our coach for many years.

 

[Fig]

It’s seems like Ian Clark extended. I think it was @Mobiandi who suggested the Everett silvertips goalie coach. Let’s grab him for the AHL maybe?

 

[Lunatik]

It’s seems like Ian Clark extended. I think it was @Mobiandi who suggested the Everett silvertips goalie coach. Let’s grab him for the AHL maybe?

I'm not against the idea, but the Flames do have Thomas Speer in Stockton now, he was just hired 2 years ago and they got him from the USA Hockey where he worked directly with Spencer Knight the two seasons prior to being drafted. Other guys he worked with are Drew DeRider who is the starter for Michigan State, Cameron Rowe, who just had a great Freshman season for Wisconsin and Drew Commesso who had a very good Freshman season at BU.

 

[Fig]

I'm not against the idea, but the Flames do have Thomas Speer in Stockton now, he was just hired 2 years ago and they got him from the USA Hockey where he worked directly with Spencer Knight the two seasons prior to being drafted. Other guys he worked with are Drew DeRider who is the starter for Michigan State, Cameron Rowe, who just had a great Freshman season for Wisconsin and Drew Commesso who had a very good Freshman season at BU.

Damn... either we're on the right path, or something is still seriously wrong in the goalie development that isn't pure goalie coaching. Either way, I'd love if we can find a way to address it so our goalie development isn't so abysmal overall. (Way too much bad luck mixed in with some confusing and questionable paths to fizzling out)

 

[Lunatik]

Damn... either we're on the right path, or something is still seriously wrong in the goalie development that isn't pure goalie coaching. Either way, I'd love if we can find a way to address it so our goalie development isn't so abysmal overall. (Way too much bad luck mixed in with some confusing and questionable paths to fizzling out)

Remember Speer has only had 2 (partial) seasons with the Heat. He has only had the chance to work with Gillies (30 games), Zagidulin (36 games), and Sparks (16 games) for more than a handful of games. Gillies was in his final year with the organization and had never been the same after hip surgery and a bunch of personal loss in a short period of time. Zagidulin had a decent rookie season, was terrible this year but 6 games is too small of a sample size, and he was shuffled between the AHL and the taxi squad all year. Sparks is what he is at this point in time, but did improve over his number the previous season.

And in the NHL LaBarbera has only had 1 season. I know Sigalet has been a talking point in the past but lets be honest, he was trying to polish a turd,

 

[FlamerForLife]

 

[Lunatik]

Interesting. I'm not sure I buy it, but it's interesting and adding him, I assume to replace Huska, would add a ton more experience to the coaching staff.