GDT: The Amazing Schneiderman Returns! ECQF Game 3 - Lightning @ Devils, 7:30 PM, MSG+

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BenedictGomez

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Pretty obvious why they did it. With Mojo back, they don’t feel their is another top 6 spot open right now and they stick Stafford is a better bottom 6 option then Bratt. They aren’t wrong as Bratt’s game is not suited for a fourth line role at all.

I would have put Gibbons back in for Stafford though.

What 4th-line role though? Tampa isnt a team you play a traditional "4th-line role" against.

This series has not featured that type of play at all. If each team has been fielding a punishing "checking line" in this series, I must somehow be missing all of the punishing checking going on.
 
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What 4th-line role though? Tampa isnt a team you play a traditional "4th-line role" against.

This series has not featured that type of play at all. If each team has been fielding a punishing "checking line" in this series, I must somehow be missing all of the punishing checking going on.

It is missing, so I imagine all the more reason they didn’t want to throw a soft rookie in there.
 
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What 4th-line role though? Tampa isnt a team you play a traditional "4th-line role" against.

This series has not featured that type of play at all. If each team has been fielding a punishing "checking line" in this series, I must somehow be missing all of the punishing checking going on.

In all fairness, the third against TB in game 2 it looked like NJ finally got a forecheck and some hitting going and that tilted the ice. Hopefully that wasn't a mirage.
 

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OK, our opinions differ. I don't see playing Bratt at 4RW is a "grooming" move. I think he has skill and playing on a line with MarJo and Coleman might actually do something in the O zone at home where the staff can get them a matchup against TB's fourth line. I don't see anything on the ice that Lovejoy does that Santini can't do at RD3. Coleman is already playing as is MarJo. The only move up front I advocate is sitting Boyle and on defense it's sitting Moore and Lovejoy. I think the players I'm suggesting can actually bring something to the table that might help the team win. At the end of the day, Hall, Zajac, Palms, Vats, Greene, and the goalie have to make the difference. If the team needs anything from the scrubby vets at the bottom of the roster the game is lost already. You hope that young players can find some success, and both Bratt and Santini have had some in the regular season and give me some belief that they can offer more than the broken down old men they replace. Also, I'm not going to go looking, but my guess is that some teams with 5 or 6 rookies have had good series at some point. How about Boston this year? Don't they have a bunch also? Their vets are way ahead of ours and that's the real issue. I'm not a huge Hynes fan but his options are limited here and he chose to go with the double down on the old vets routine which I get but disagree with. Again, it's likely as much optics as strategy.

Bratt isn't a bottom line forward... that's all you need to know and the only reason why he's not playing.
 

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Since Feb 1st Bratt had 4 points in 26 games with roughly 13:30 ATOI.

But yea I think Gibbons would provide more of what's needed on the 4th line compared to Stafford.
 

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Since Feb 1st Bratt had 4 points in 26 games with roughly 13:30 ATOI.

But yea I think Gibbons would provide more of what's needed on the 4th line compared to Stafford.

This is more my issue. I don’t like taking a PKer out and leaving your other great PKer on the bench when the PK has struggled.

Stafford for Gibbons doesn’t make a lot of sense.
 

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But yea I think Gibbons would provide more of what's needed on the 4th line compared to Stafford.

It's not even the line play I care about, they'll only get something like 8:53 to 10:21. It's the fact that Gibbons is one of the best penalty-killers in the entire NHL that's going to be missed. No Grabner either. So stay out of the box....... I guess.



Stafford is gonna score tonight.

Well, he's certainly due, that's for sure, so maybe you'll be correct.
 

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This is more my issue. I don’t like taking a PKer out and leaving your other great PKer on the bench when the PK has struggled.

Stafford for Gibbons doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Yea the 4th line, as it appears so far for tonight...is gonna be the Miles Wood show basically. Boyle sure as f*** can't keep up and Stafford isn't exactly a speed demon either. I'd rather Gibbons to go out there and attempt to create havoc with Wood. High energy and relentless.
 

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Who gives a rat's ass about "optics"??

I thought Hynes was the Head Coach here?

Plus, you play the ones who give your team the best chance to win.

And from what I saw all season long in comparison....

Bratt gives the team the best option to win than Stafford who does NOTHING.
The hell are you talking about? Bratt hasn’t done anything in months. He’s been awful. Getting Johansson back is the significant story, whether Stafford or Bratt plays 10 minutes tonight means nothing.
 

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I never understood this rationale :

So some of us think Hynes isn't playing Bratt because he doesn't want to throw out a so-called "soft" rookie there.

EXCEPT that makes no sense 'cause it's in the face of Nico(who is a rookie himself) playing regular minutes. How is Bratt considered "soft" while Nico isn't?

What? Because Nico is the first overall pick in the draft while Bratt was selected in the 6th round in 2016?
 

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Yea the 4th line, as it appears so far for tonight...is gonna be the Miles Wood show basically. Boyle sure as **** can't keep up and Stafford isn't exactly a speed demon either. I'd rather Gibbons to go out there and attempt to create havoc with Wood. High energy and relentless.

It's going to be funny watching Boyle trail the play tonight. Several steps behind Wood.

It's going to be like when a bunch of 13 year olds are playing soccer, and they let someone's 8 year old kid brother play, and that kid is always 10 yards behind the play trying to catch up.
 
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Bratt isn't a bottom line forward... that's all you need to know and the only reason why he's not playing.

I'm going to presume you meant this tongue in cheek and not snarky and condescending since we are discussing matters of opinion and as fans of the same team can disagree with each other without insulting each other's intelligence.
 

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The hell are you talking about? Bratt hasn’t done anything in months. He’s been awful. Getting Johansson back is the significant story, whether Stafford or Bratt plays 10 minutes tonight means nothing.

For Bratt, it would mean A LOT for his development....

..but I guess no one gives a rat's ass at this point 'cause..HOORAY FOR USELESS VETERANS!! :clap::clap:



:shakehead
 

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I never understood this rationale :

So some of us think Hynes isn't playing Bratt because he doesn't want to throw out a so-called "soft" rookie there.

EXCEPT that makes no sense 'cause it's in the face of Nico(who is a rookie himself) playing regular minutes. How is Bratt considered "soft" while Nico isn't?

What? Because Nico is the first overall pick in the draft while Bratt was selected in the 6th round in 2016?

One point to this is Nico plays a very hard game, for a rookie. Hard, meaning, he will not hesitate for a second to make a play, whatever the scenario.

He goes into dirty areas and will be willing to get punished to make a play, and often will come out the better guy. This is more an indication of how good Nico is at a young age, rather than a negative to Bratt.

This is one reason HYnes hasn't taken him outta lineup AT ALL. He's rather fearless for this age/size/build (82 gamer)
 

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I never understood this rationale :

So some of us think Hynes isn't playing Bratt because he doesn't want to throw out a so-called "soft" rookie there.

EXCEPT that makes no sense 'cause it's in the face of Nico(who is a rookie himself) playing regular minutes. How is Bratt considered "soft" while Nico isn't?

What? Because Nico is the first overall pick in the draft while Bratt was selected in the 6th round in 2016?
he's arguably mentally soft. i'm hoping (and maybe he is already) he ends up not being reliant on a mental coach, but unless it was just a normal slump, if the mental part of the game has him down, then i don't know if i want him in a series where we're down 2-0.

nico has been able to play consistently well this whole season, and got better as the season went on.

physically, though, both are strong. bratt has great legs and is able to stay up on his feet.
 

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I never understood this rationale :

So some of us think Hynes isn't playing Bratt because he doesn't want to throw out a so-called "soft" rookie there.

EXCEPT that makes no sense 'cause it's in the face of Nico(who is a rookie himself) playing regular minutes. How is Bratt considered "soft" while Nico isn't?

What? Because Nico is the first overall pick in the draft while Bratt was selected in the 6th round in 2016?

If you can't figure out on your own why Nico is playing and Bratt isn't... yiiiiiiiiiiiikes!
 
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